**RANDY PHILLPS** Belief Statement- Is it the same as his Fathers???

[Joseph Miller]

Originally Posted by Thad

At KP's church or RP's church ?? there are 2 churches you know

KP

[Thad]

Originally Posted by Joseph Miller

KP

you think KPs church has compromised as opposed to RPs??????

[Joseph Miller]

Originally Posted by Thad

you think KPs church has compromised as opposed to RPs??????

I think both compromised.

[Thad]

Originally Posted by Joseph Miller

I think both compromised.

you do????? even though KP preaches 3 steps ????

[Joseph Miller]

Originally Posted by Thad

you do????? even though KP preaches 3 steps ????

As far as the Godhead yeah I do think both have compromised.

[SDG]

Triune in His manifestation

Does the word TRIUNE give you the heeby jeebies, Joe? It does mean three in one. And the entire phrase says TRUINE IN MANIFESTATION ... not in persons... this in no way goes against Oneness theology ... AT ALL.

We believe all three manifestations are of the One True God.

Early Oneness believers had no fear of the term Triunity when referring to God ... it has been the subsequent radicalized generations that convulse uncontrollably and foam from the mouth when it is mentioned ....

Interesting to note that Andrew Urshan, father of Nathaniel Urshan, objected to the use of the term "oneness" preferring to describe God as a "tri-unity" or "Three-One God" in his book: The Almighty God in the Lord Jesus Christ, (pgs 6,42,78,93) or : The Blessed Three-ness of the Godhead. WG 4 (July 1923), 2-4.

Imagine a Oneness writer today using a title for his book with the words "The Blessed Three-ness of the Godhead'!!!!

Lastly ... KP is more Oneness than most of you here.

[James Griffin]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Does the word TRIUNE give you the heeby jeebies, Joe? It does mean three in one. And the entire phrase says TRUINE IN MANIFESTATION ... not in persons... this in no way goes against Oneness theology ... AT ALL.

We believe all three manifestations are of the One True God.

Early Oneness believers had no fear of the term Triunity when referring to God ... it has been the subsequent radicalized generations that convulse uncontrollably and foam from the mouth when it is mentioned ....

Interesting to note that Andrew Urshan, father of Nathaniel Urshan, objected to the use of the term "oneness" preferring to describe God as a "tri-unity" or "Three-One God" in his book: The Almighty God in the Lord Jesus Christ, (pgs 6,42,78,93) or : The Blessed Three-ness of the Godhead. WG 4 (July 1923), 2-4.

Imagine a Oneness writer today using a title for his book with the words "The Blessed Three-ness of the Godhead'!!!!

Lastly ... KP is more Oneness than most of you here.

Amen and amen.

The irony lost on my trini-phobic brethren is use of the word Triune, is most often by those who want to recognize the three manifestions of the Godhead but do NOT, repeat for the slow learners, do NOT want to be confused with Trinitarians.

If anything their use of the word places them smack in the middle of the "Oneness" camp.

[Thad]

Dan &/Or James ,

what constitutes and completes ones salvation at RP's church ?

is it the same as KP's ?

[Thad]

There are 2 people on this forum for whom I am surprised they have not commented on this at all - but then,again, maybe not . ummmmm

[SDG]

KP is still very much Water and Spirit .... if you download the Enquirer's Handbook for Believers at the Promiseland Church website you will be able to access the church core beliefs. http://www.promiselandchurch.net/enquirershandbook.pdf

These are some quotes, reflecting a 3 step stance espoused by KP, from this Believer's Handbook

He also used the same keys to open up salvation to the Samaritans (Acts 8:15-17) and to the Gentiles
(Acts 10:44-48). In each instance, Peter was responsible for teaching them about the born again
experience -- repentance, water baptism and Holy Ghost baptism. This is the apostolic doctrine of the new birth, and it is the foundation on which the church is built (Ephesians 2:20).

The apostle Paul, chief apostle to the Gentiles, was taught the very same doctrine by the Lord Himself (Galatians 1:12). To ensure that his doctrine was the same as Peter’s with no flaws or contradictions, he met with Peter in Jerusalem. For fifteen days Paul confirmed his teaching with the
“key man,” Peter, and then took his doctrine to the Gentiles (Acts 19:1-6).

There is only one apostolic doctrine of salvation -- repentance, water baptism and Holy Ghost baptism -- and as a word of warning regarding this, Paul wrote, “But though we [Paul and Peter] or an angel from heaven preach any other gospel unto you than that you have received, let him be
accursed” (Galatians 1:8).

Washes Us from Sins
When a person is baptized, he is washed from his sins by the blood of Jesus (Revelation 1:5). “Arise
and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord” (Acts 22:16). This is also
what the apostle Peter meant when he said, “. . . Repent and be baptized every one of you in the
name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins . . .” (Acts 2:38).

As for RP ... based on conversations here, with others and the statement of belief ... I believe he's a one-stepper

... the wording of his website statement gives strong evidence of this.