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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Yes Peter had a sword and carried it. I carry a 357Sig at times. I dont believe that is wrong. I also see that at that moment it was Gods will for Jesus to be taken to the cross. Jesus didnt want Peter to stop that nor did he wish to see Peter killed.
Next thing to consider. The book of Revelation shows that multitudes of Christians are going to die for their testimony and because they keep the Lords commands. The reasoning of Jesus to Peter was if I were delivered from this mob how would the scriptures be fulfilled?
So if Christians take arms to defend themselves by first killing the bad guys THEN how would those prophecies be fulfilled?
Actually what apostle James referred to when he said "you kill the just and he does not resist you" was not speaking of religous persecution but rather how the rich treat the poor.
Do you keep the Sabbath Day? It is also coded in the law of Moses. Are we under Moses or Jesus?
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Apparently you have missed one of the points I have made - that is there is a difference between religious persecution and a robber.
Yes I keep the Sabbath though not in the way you may think - another thread perhaps.
As to the Mosaic Law it is still in effect. Christ did not destroy the Law He fulfilled the Law, another big difference. Adultery is still sin for an example.
When a person has faith and repents, is baptized in Jesus name for the forgiveness of sins and receives the Holy Ghost they have passed from the Law to Grace. We have a choice in this life. Choose to accept the work of Calvary or choose to stand by our own works.
BTW don't worry about scripture will be fulfilled. It will... There are few true Christians in the world and this govt. has the power to slaughter every one in this country if it chose to. Ruby Ridge or Waco all prove the govt. will do what it wants to do and no one can stop it. When the time comes for that scripture to be fulfilled rest assured it will regardless of any self defense mechanisms.
James 5:6
Adam Clarke
Ye have condemned and killed the just; and he doth not resist you - Several by τον δικαιον, the just one, understand Jesus Christ, who is so called,
Act_3:14;
Act_7:52;
Act_22:14; but the structure of the sentence, and the connection in which it stands, seem to require that
we should consider this as applying to the just or righteous in general, who were persecuted and murdered by those oppressive rich men; and their death was the consequence of their dragging them before the judgment seats,
Jam_2:6, where, having no influence, and none to plead their cause, they were unjustly condemned and executed.
And he doth not resist you. - In this, as in τον δικαιον, the just, there is an enallege of the singular for the plural number. And in the word ουκ αντιτασσεται, he doth not resist, the idea is included of defense in a court of justice.
These poor righteous people had none to plead their cause; and if they had it would have been useless, as their oppressors had all power and all influence, and those who sat on these judgment seats were lost to all sense of justice and right. Some think that he doth not resist you should be referred to God; as if he had said, God permits you to go on in this way at present, but he will shortly awake to judgment, and destroy you as enemies of truth and righteousness.
JFB
he doth not resist you — The very patience of the Just one is abused by the wicked as
an incentive to boldness in violent persecution, as if they may do as they please with impunity. God doth “resist the proud” (
Jam_4:6); but Jesus as man, “as a sheep is dumb before the shearers, so He opened not His mouth”: so His people
are meek under persecution. The day will come when God will resist (literally, “set Himself in array against”) His foes and theirs.
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