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03-22-2010, 06:26 AM
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Re: Things That Bother Me About President Obama
not valid for a current passport, not valid for a president period !!!.
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03-22-2010, 01:49 PM
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Re: Things That Bother Me About President Obama
Think about it! I have been thinkin'....
"The President who still smokes like a chimney signed a healthcare bill, that was written by a committee whose chairman admits he doesn't understand it, passed by a congress which hasn't read it, funded by a treasury chief that doesn't pay his own taxes, and managed by a surgeon general who is obese. Yea…this will work out well"
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03-22-2010, 05:16 PM
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Re: Things That Bother Me About President Obama
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not valid for a current passport, not valid for a president period !!!.
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What makes you think the Birth Certificate he provided is not acceptable for a U.S. passport? Did you or someone you know try to get a passport with a Certificate of Live Birth from Hawaii that had a raised seal on it and was rejected? If not how on earth can you make any kind of claim about what documents from Hawaii are acceptable for a U.S. Passport?
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03-22-2010, 07:18 PM
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Re: Things That Bother Me About President Obama
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What makes you think the Birth Certificate he provided is not acceptable for a U.S. passport? Did you or someone you know try to get a passport with a Certificate of Live Birth from Hawaii that had a raised seal on it and was rejected? If not how on earth can you make any kind of claim about what documents from Hawaii are acceptable for a U.S. Passport?
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My brother,He was declined, this aint 2004 anymore.
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03-22-2010, 07:39 PM
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Actually that answers your question about why Obama wouldn't show his long form even after the requests. He showed his short form and immediately people said it wasn't enough. If he would have showed his long form most of those same people that still doubted after the short form would still doubt. It would have accomplished nothing except made those people that were asking for the long form to start asking for something else. They would have kept on doing this no matter what document he stopped at. Since the short form is enough to establish in court his Hawaian birth he might as well have stopped the whole producing documents to prove his birth with that.
EDIT: Actually make my day and prove that EDIT I made wrong. Tell me right now that after all the evidence I've presented about Obama's Hawaian Birth that you now believe he is a natural born citizen. If not I maintain the truth of that statement... no amount of evidence or proof will ever prove that Obama is a natural born citizen to those that have drank from that rightwing kool-aid.
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jfrog... I'm gonna do as you asked and as Mr Clint Eastwood always said, "I'm gonna go ahead and make your day. From all the evidence and all the statements it would appear that Obama is an American citizen."
So! Will you make my day now and tell me why he's so stubborn and refuses to still show the original long form as you call it. WHY? Why didn't he simply show this up front and there would never have been all the fuss with law suits being brought to the courts. Again I ask, "Why didn't he show his birth certificate from the start? Why didn't he show his education records? No big deal! But what is he hiding. This would have never come up if he had shown his records as other presidents have."
So much for all this hassle. Again, simple question... "Why did he refuse to show his records?" Simple answer .... can you give me a simple answer?
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LIFE: Some days you're the dog and some days you're the hydrant!
I have ... Hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia! The fear of long words.
"Prediction is very hard, especially about the future." - Yogi Berra
"I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave in reflection." - Thomas Paine
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03-22-2010, 10:01 PM
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Re: Things That Bother Me About President Obama
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My brother,He was declined, this aint 2004 anymore.
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Your brother is from Hawaii?
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03-22-2010, 10:40 PM
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Re: Things That Bother Me About President Obama
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jfrog... I'm gonna do as you asked and as Mr Clint Eastwood always said, "I'm gonna go ahead and make your day. From all the evidence and all the statements it would appear that Obama is an American citizen."
So! Will you make my day now and tell me why he's so stubborn and refuses to still show the original long form as you call it. WHY? Why didn't he simply show this up front and there would never have been all the fuss with law suits being brought to the courts. Again I ask, "Why didn't he show his birth certificate from the start? Why didn't he show his education records? No big deal! But what is he hiding. This would have never come up if he had shown his records as other presidents have."
So much for all this hassle. Again, simple question... "Why did he refuse to show his records?" Simple answer .... can you give me a simple answer?
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And if you can't it would seem that you are blindly taking up for him. Just my opinion, which I'm sure is worth nothing!
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Why did he refuse to show his records? Because by your admission he already has provided the evidence and established that he was born in hawaii!
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03-22-2010, 11:04 PM
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Re: Things That Bother Me About President Obama
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Why did he refuse to show his records? Because by your admission he already has provided the evidence and established that he was born in hawaii!
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Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!!!
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03-23-2010, 12:06 AM
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Re: Things That Bother Me About President Obama
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Why did he refuse to show his records? Because by your admission he already has provided the evidence and established that he was born in hawaii!
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Jfrog, I'm done! He didn't show those things.... others showed them. And I'm pretty sure that all the uproar didn't come about because he showed his records. It was because he refused to show them... along with education records. I'm not stupid and I will not argue with you. I some way don't feel your being honest in this at all. But if that's what you choose to do so be it!
I did not say the bolded above. See the underlined as well. You said it and it is not true.
Good night!
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"From the time you're born, 'til you ride in the hearse, there ain't nothing bad that couldn't be worse!"
LIFE: Some days you're the dog and some days you're the hydrant!
I have ... Hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia! The fear of long words.
"Prediction is very hard, especially about the future." - Yogi Berra
"I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave in reflection." - Thomas Paine
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03-23-2010, 04:23 PM
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Re: Things That Bother Me About President Obama
Someone has said that the goal of BHO and his socialist gang is to bring the United States to the place where we have:
the economy of Zimbabwe,
the freedom of the press of China,
the crime and violence of Mexico,
the tolerance for Christian people of Iran,
the freedom of speech of Venezuela.
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