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Old 01-12-2009, 12:05 AM
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Re: Israel is rolling!

Totally agree with David Horowitz!

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In 2006 these Islamic Nazis took possession of the Gaza strip, which is unoccupied except by Hamas and is Jew-less (because the Palestinians would kill any Jews that moved in their state). Hamas has turned Gaza into a terrorist fortress, launching rockets into Israeli schoolyards and hospitals and townships, and launching them from Palestinian schoolyards and hospitals and townships to ensure that the maximum number of civilians – both Jews and Muslims – would die for their cause. They will win the Armageddon they are planning, they boast, because “the Jews love life and we love death.”
http://townhall.com/Columnists/David...ainst_the_jews
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Old 01-12-2009, 02:26 AM
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You know I have sympathy for the innocent. In these cases it can, in my opinion, only be children. The adults know what is going on. They know who the trouble makers are and they don't seem to care about the fact that they are being used by them. They are using the families and places where families and children are as cover for their hate filled attacks. Then when these places are bombed in return they then make a scene and the rest of their religious world then stands up against the ones who are striking back. I get so tired of hearing the world and liberal left run their mouths against Israel because they strike back. If it were Israel losing 30 and 40 civilian lives there would be NO complaints from the rest of the world.

Lord Jesus come quickly. I am so tired of this crazy world and everything being backwards and upside down.
What the world does not want to admit is that Israel has a right to protect their innocents. It's unrealistic to tell a country like Israel to only do a proportionate attack....in other words if they lob one rocket you lob one back....hello?!? Wars are not won by being equal to your enemy. They are won by being better somehow and either wiping them out or pushing them so hard they surrender unconditionally. Israel does not want to just get an eye for an eye....they want to stop all the attacks. That is why they built the wall to stop the suicide bombers. If it was revenge they'd just leave the wall down and bomb the mess out of Palestine.

BTW why don't those miserable UN observers go stand in Israel where the rockets are falling?
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I dunno. The very first thing Obama did after winning the election was to name Rahm Emmanuel as chief of staff. RE is the guy who serves as a volunteer in the Israeli Defense Forces when he's not chopping up politicos here in the States. Any qualms I had about Obama and Israel were lifted when RE was announced. Not that I like the guy - but I respect him and trust him as far as US policy toward Israel is concerned.

That being said, Israel's relationship with Repubs is often a bit more complex. The Bush family has been personal friends with the Saudi royal family for generations - and the al Sauds have always been bitter toward Israel.

And Israel isn't the genius at making the best use of time- from a military perspective. They pussyfooted around the Hezbollah issue and paid for it. They are subject to intense international pressures to sit idly by and get shot at. And even their domestic situation isn't really helpful.

They've got the Haaretz-style liberal Zionists who no longer dream of a promised land and just want to be liked by their friends in the Paris coffee shops. The've got even more radical Leftist groups like "PeaceNow" who openly provide aid for terrorists.

On the other hand they've got the ultra-orthodox who demand, and get exemption from military service so that they can stay home, live off a govt subsidy reading Torah scrolls and making more little ultra-orthodox babies who will refuse military service when they are of age. Most of these groups don't even believe that the State of Israel has a right to exist.

Somehow, Israel has to walk through this domestic minefield before they can even get out to face the terrorists. They have a real identity crisis going on that plays to their enemies. The good people there need our support and encouragement.
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In the interest of democracy and freedom in the middle East I tend to be in favor.

My support would not be because I believe they are "God's chosen people" - because I tend to think Christ died equally for the sins of all mankind.
So you feel that Israel rolling into Gaza is going to further the cause of democracy & freedom in the middle east?
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I love this reading, you guys bring out some excellant points to ponder!
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