David Bernard Weighs In on General Board Decision - Page 23

Stephanas · #**221** 03-03-2008, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Whole Hearted

I know alot of pastor and preachers that might would go to conf and $50.00 is not pocket change to them. I know to me when I go to GC that is two day allotment for food. Not every pastor is rich, many live on a tight budget and work secular job to make end meet. But I guess one is not important unless they pastor 500 or more.

I can only think of two reasons to go to a General Conference:

1) You've got money to burn.

2) You're on a per diem from some level of the org.

In either of these two cases, $50 is chump change.

I can't think of any reason why any pastor on a budget would spend their hard earned money on General Conference. There are better uses for your conference dollars.

ChicagoPastor · #**222** 03-03-2008, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Whole Hearted

I know alot of pastor and preachers that might would go to conf and $50.00 is not pocket change to them. I know to me when I go to GC that is two day allotment for food. Not every pastor is rich, many live on a tight budget and work secular job to make end meet. But I guess one is not important unless they pastor 500 or more.

WH, I'll agree with you.
I think it's a lot of money to pay to go to our own General Conference.
We already pay National Dues, District Dues/Tithes.
Thankfully a minister does NOT have to pay to enter the business sessions.

I don't think will help attendance at all.

It now costs a family of four $200 to go to GC, on top of travel expenses.

Whole Hearted · #**223** 03-03-2008, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephanas

I can only think of two reasons to go to a General Conference:

1) You've got money to burn.

2) You're on a per diem from some level of the org.

In either of these two cases, $50 is chump change.

I can't think of any reason why any pastor on a budget would spend their hard earned money on General Conference. There are better uses for your conference dollars.

True

SDG · #**224** 03-03-2008, 10:13 AM

They should have the national business meeting every year ... and GC open to all every two years.

Encryptus · #**225** 03-03-2008, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Whole Hearted

From what went on last year at Youth Conf. they definitely need to control what goes on.

Sorry to ask. For those of us who weren't there. What happened at last year's youth conference?

ChicagoPastor · #**226** 03-03-2008, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by TrueNorth

Bro.
I always stand to be corrected - but you will have to do better than that. If SM spends 70k while bringing in 30k is it being subsidized?

Let me rephrase or correct myself.

Up until a few years ago, all monies given to Multi-cultural ministries was put in the same pot.
Even if you gave a $1000 offering at Spanish Conference, that money could and sometimes did go to pay for another multi-cultural ministry...

Also, there has not been a true "Spanish Ministy Offering drive". The only money asked for is to help pay for the Conference. We do not have our own account to deposit the money.

I think it's a little inaccurate to say we are subsidized when all the money goes in the same pot. again...JMO

Whole Hearted · #**227** 03-03-2008, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ChicagoPastor

WH, I'll agree with you.
I think it's a lot of money to pay to go to our own General Conference.
We already pay National Dues, District Dues/Tithes.
Thankfully a minister does NOT have to pay to enter the business sessions.

I don't think will help attendance at all.

It now costs a family of four $200 to go to GC, on top of travel expenses.

We are a family of four. TO think that before we leave home or do anything it';s $200.00 off the top. I might could do that now, but in the past no way. When in home mission and trying to go to GC, it was motel 6 and McDonald dollar menu, you think we could have afford and extra $200.00?

I believe that these men should be able to have a vote and go to the service, but with this extra expense I don't see how they can.

Are we becoming a rich man org.?

ChicagoPastor · #**228** 03-03-2008, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Whole Hearted

And just who is going to buy this jet?

Haney can travel just like the rest of us,.

Oh I forgot some one said that he's the pope isn't he?

See, I think Bishop Haney should travel better than us.
The man is traveling the country and the world as our leader.

I think if Pastors expect their saints to treat them right and provide for them, then us ministers should do the same for the Bishop.