Texas Tornado Over Pastor with TV

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Make all the excuses you want.

A lie is a lie is a lie.

You are looking at the difference between what is clearly an interpretation vs. a blatant violation.

That is the same for holiness standards too.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Originally Posted by COOPER

That is the same for holiness standards too.

COOPER, do you go along the streets at 15 mph above the posted limits, driving up on the sidewalks at random and ignoring traffic signals? No, you signed an affidavit that you would obey the traffic rules, and you were tested on them. A UPCI minister signed an agreement to obey rules. This has nothing to do with "holiness"- it does deal with honesty.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind

COOPER, do you go along the streets at 15 mph above the posted limits, driving up on the sidewalks at random and ignoring traffic signals? No, you signed an affidavit that you would obey the traffic rules, and you were tested on them. A UPCI minister signed an agreement to obey rules. This has nothing to do with "holiness"- it does deal with honesty.

SO HONESTY HAS NOTHING TO DO W/ HOLINESS .... HMM....

[ILG]

Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind

COOPER, do you go along the streets at 15 mph above the posted limits, driving up on the sidewalks at random and ignoring traffic signals? No, you signed an affidavit that you would obey the traffic rules, and you were tested on them. A UPCI minister signed an agreement to obey rules. This has nothing to do with "holiness"- it does deal with honesty.

It is true that a pastor should not have a TV according to the manual.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

SO HONESTY HAS NOTHING TO DO W/ HOLINESS .... HMM....

Daniel,

you of all here would know the use of all caps is shouting.

The wet blanket COOPER threw out here had nothing to do with the subject at hand. See post #1 that the question is the honesty and ethics of a minister who has violated something he vowed not to do. Per my example, the traffic camera caught him on the sidewalk and the signal was clearly not green. Television does not need defination or intrepretation for the UPCI Articles clearly state no minister may have one in his home.

I have said before this thread any minister who does so is not honest.

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

SO HONESTY HAS NOTHING TO DO W/ HOLINESS .... HMM....

You are being deliberately obtuse, and possibly deliberately deceptive.

You know your post is a misrepresentation of BOOM's post.

He means that the issue of having the tv and the conflict over it has more to do with honesty than holiness.

You sing the AS, you should abide by it.

[Trouvere]

So no pastor from Texas got run over by a tornado for having a tv?

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Originally Posted by ILG

It is true that a pastor should not have a TV according to the manual.

It does clearly state in the Manual I have here. It does also in the California Manual I have here.

Seems plain and straightforward.

Alas, I have to face the day.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Trouvere

So no pastor from Texas got run over by a tornado for having a tv?

No, but I heard Grandma got ranned over by a reindeer.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by ILG

It is true that a pastor should not have a TV according to the manual.

A MINISTER cannot have a television is his or her home. That is in the manual.