Social Security and a Universal Health Insurance system really function quite differently. The current system in Social Security COULD work if we focused on it and made some much needed changes (changes we most likely would agree upon). But the Republicans have been in control of the show for eight years, and they've done NOTHING to fix the system. Nothing. Now the Democrats, should they set the agenda and we get a Democratic President will have an opportunity to look at the system. If it cannot be fixed, privatizing and investing it properly might work. Here's a policy paper on fixing Social Security:
CH you are such a hack.... The Dems have had control for the last 2 yrs and have not brought up one bill of change for SS what so ever. The Republicans pushed for SS reform in the 90's and the Dems/Clinton siad we were fear mongoring and that nothing was wrong with it. Both parties have failed SS. Bush has the best idea but they sure are not going for that because that would remove our money from the government bank rolls. Talk about wanting to help someone, Our SS would be 3 times what the benefits are now, how come Dems are not helping us there, the elderly could pay for their own healthcare...what another novel idea !!...nope that would mean the government would have no control and the Dems can't have that cause we are just too stupid to take care of ourselves, How does it feel CH to be labeled by those you support as being to ignorant to take care of yourself?
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In fact I think that the insinuation of "hateful" Pentecostals is coming mostly from the fertile imaginations of bitter, backslidden ex Apostolics who are constantly trying to find a way to justify their actions. ~ strait shooter
Bro, nations with universal health care are healthier than Americans. I've been to countries with universal health care. Have you?
Oh, and I provided links for you to look up medFICO. If you do some research a lot of the medical industry isn't too pleased with it either. And Ron is right, there have been instances of the poor and indigents being dropped off by cabs paid by hospital staff on the street outside clinics in poor neighborhoods. It's not all over the place, but it has happened and still does in some areas.
Define "healthy." Russia has had universal health care since the day they shot the Czar in 1917, and they're a mess. China and India both have universal goverment paid health care systems and health care is non existent in many regions.
I notice that the countries that you would probably prefer to cite don't report on the "health" of their huge immigrant populations - just the rich white folk. Considering that most of those programs were built up by either colonial imperialism or through the judicious use of eugenics throughout the 20th century I'm surprised that you want us to follow their lead.
Medicare and Medicaid have actually been managed quite well...unless you count what the Republicans have done to it.
Ha! C'mon Chris. The Republicans didn't even touch Social Security, Medicaid nor Medicare during their brief interregnum- except to try and set up a system to prevent the Dems from raiding these funds for their pork projects- this was Newt's famous "lockbox."
The Dems have controlled the nation's purse since FDR. The Dems invented the Federal deficit to try and pay for all of the New Deal social programs. We went completely bust with LBJ's infamous "War on Poverty" that created so much institutional poverty that we're still mired in it.
It's the Dems, bro. Blow the dust off your Constitution and read Article One, Section Seven. Who's been stealing our money? Who is the only Constitutionally empowered body to steal our money- and who has been running that show for the last 100 years, except during the brief "take over" by that 'philandering' Newt Gingrich?
And when were the books even briefly balanaced as well? Back in the 1990's when the GOP briefly held the purse. The US is really a Christian nation in this regard- we give our purse to a thief to hold - the Democratic Party.
Define "healthy." Russia has had universal health care since the day they shot the Czar in 1917, and they're a mess. China and India both have universal goverment paid health care systems and health care is non existent in many regions.
I notice that the countries that you would probably prefer to cite don't report on the "health" of their huge immigrant populations - just the rich white folk. Considering that most of those programs were built up by either colonial imperialism or through the judicious use of eugenics throughout the 20th century I'm surprised that you want us to follow their lead.
You're cherry picking. There are nations with very successful systems. Lying is still a sin if I remember correctly.
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CH you are such a hack.... The Dems have had control for the last 2 yrs and have not brought up one bill of change for SS what so ever. The Republicans pushed for SS reform in the 90's and the Dems/Clinton siad we were fear mongoring and that nothing was wrong with it. Both parties have failed SS. Bush has the best idea but they sure are not going for that because that would remove our money from the government bank rolls. Talk about wanting to help someone, Our SS would be 3 times what the benefits are now, how come Dems are not helping us there, the elderly could pay for their own healthcare...what another novel idea !!...nope that would mean the government would have no control and the Dems can't have that cause we are just too stupid to take care of ourselves, How does it feel CH to be labeled by those you support as being to ignorant to take care of yourself?
Bro, you'd vote Republican if they planned on selling your family on ebay. lol
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Bro, you'd vote Republican if they planned on selling your family on ebay. lol
Uuuuu ok
You have a brain lapse there chris, that sounds like a response from my 12 yr old.
__________________ You can't reach the world with your talents. People are sick and tired of religious talents. People need a Holy Ghost annointed church with real fruits to reach out and touch their lives. ~ Pastor Burrell Crabtree
In fact I think that the insinuation of "hateful" Pentecostals is coming mostly from the fertile imaginations of bitter, backslidden ex Apostolics who are constantly trying to find a way to justify their actions. ~ strait shooter
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"For I know the plans I have for you, declares the LORD, plans for wholeness and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope." Jeremiah 29:11 (English Standard Version)
You have a brain lapse there chris, that sounds like a response from my 12 yr old.
It was a joke, because you're so sold out on those guys and they've really done nothing for you.
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"For I know the plans I have for you, declares the LORD, plans for wholeness and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope." Jeremiah 29:11 (English Standard Version)
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