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Old 10-12-2007, 01:05 PM
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so you believe someone who has been born again (acts 2:38) can be lost?? do you know of any examples?
Those two that lied and dropped dead..
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Old 10-12-2007, 01:07 PM
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Looks like the UPCI will have some company with the possibilities of churches splitting or leaving the organization.

Interesting to see what those in the Presbyterian Church are leaving over, truth, salvation and sexuality, now those are things to leave/split a liberal group over.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071012/...terian_split_2
I've have several UPC preachers call me, and they are welcoming the split.
They feel now they can get rid of some of the other legalistic bondages that are hanging on the UPC.
In fact one is having me in November.
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Old 10-12-2007, 01:15 PM
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so you believe someone who has been born again (acts 2:38) can be lost?? do you know of any examples?
Yes sir I surely do. Try Demas????????????????
Try the false teachers Paul turned over to Satan????
Paul in FACT stated he could become a castaway after preaching to others.
Paul wrote a complete chapter warning the Corinthians they could be lost. 1Cor. 10.!
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Old 10-12-2007, 01:16 PM
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I've have several UPC preachers call me, and they are welcoming the split.
They feel now they can get rid of some of the other legalistic bondages that are hanging on the UPC.
In fact one is having me in November.
I have NO doubt this will happen. That is why they are having the Tulsa meeting.
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Some of the recent messages of Bishop Brazier's church have been on eternal security and such.
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so you believe someone who has been born again (acts 2:38) can be lost?? do you know of any examples?
I believe someone can lose their salvation, yes. The question is then does the bible teach a person can or can't lose their salvation.
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Some of the recent messages of Bishop Brazier's church have been on eternal security and such.
He and Bishop McMurray worked for years underminding the PAW teaching this heresy. Jones now pastors that church.
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Old 10-12-2007, 01:19 PM
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I have NO doubt this will happen. That is why they are having the Tulsa meeting.
Well, the UPC will never move forward with all the legslistic preachers.
I am soooo happy for the split, I feel it is step forward for the UPC.
I pray the tulsa meeting is very successful.
The UPC is losing preachers but at the same time many are re-joining and joining the UPC.
The best days are ahead for the UPC.
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Old 10-12-2007, 01:25 PM
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The UPC has seen her best days...
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Old 10-12-2007, 01:26 PM
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Well, the UPC will never move forward with all the legslistic preachers.
I am soooo happy for the split, I feel it is step forward for the UPC.
I pray the tulsa meeting is very successful.
The UPC is losing preachers but at the same time many are re-joining and joining the UPC.
The best days are ahead for the UPC.
HQs should post your endorsement!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:hy percoffee

Or the Tulsa brethren????
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