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Old 06-02-2007, 06:16 PM
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Mike,

Is it even remotely possible that you would concede that maybe, just MAYBE, your views about the "timing" of the fulfillment of our Lord's words concerning "end-time peophecies" might be amiss? Even the slightest chance? If so, then we might have some ground for discussion, but in the absence of such an admittance, I see no value in allowing myself to become involved in a discussion with you about this matter.
I used to be futurist, and studied this out most with indepth scrutiny until I knew for sure in my own estimation what I should believe, in all fear of God for my soul, and CHANGED beliefs. I have proved I am open for change when I feel corrected.

Should you be convinced I am wrong, then I will not discuss with you, anyway. I am not really interested in discussing this issue with anyone IN THIS THREAD except to show the differences between full and partial preterism, anyway, which is the reason for the thread.

If YOU might concede your timing could be off, then and then only would I likewise discuss the issuie with you as well. But that should be in a different topic thread, and not this one, since this one is for a singular purpose of comparing full and partial preterism alone.

I am ALWAYS open for correction. I just feel you are not. Thanks, and let me know. So far you have only criticized me by saying you see no value in speaking to me thus far. So far you have not engaged me in any detailed scriupural discussion. I laid forth distinct points as to how Matthew 24 must be fulfilled since the 1st century and you have not responded point by point to prove anything right or wrong, for example. You simply glossed over it all and made a broad sweep with your opinion alone. I cannot take your word for it, alone, that you studied it. I need to see your detailed explanation of scriptures and where I err in your estimation. If you wish to discuss this issue in scriptural detail, then please do so at the thread about my beliefs, but not here.
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Old 06-03-2007, 09:11 AM
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I apologize for wasting my own and your time in that scuffle. I refuse to get involved any more in that sort of thing. Again, many apologies.
Yes sir... I fully understand that.

PM incoming for further explanation.

I just found this thread and we are getting ready for church at the moment but I look forward to reading through it as soon as I get the chance to do so.
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Old 06-03-2007, 01:29 PM
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Yes sir... I fully understand that.

PM incoming for further explanation.

I just found this thread and we are getting ready for church at the moment but I look forward to reading through it as soon as I get the chance to do so.
I look forward to discussing this with you. I appreciated your PM. God bless!
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Old 06-29-2007, 07:49 PM
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Another problem with full preterism that is not found in partial preterism, is the idea that full preterists believe the white throne judgment and lake of fire are already fulfilled. This means the devil, is in the lake of fire now, already. After talking with some full preterists and their refusal to share their thoughts on issues with me, I wonder what they say about such things. Is there no more devil? Are demons something we do not contend with today?

And since death is cast into the lake of fire, why does death still affect people? Can the devil and death still affect people from the lake of fire? How? What punishment is this lake of fire?
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Old 06-29-2007, 09:31 PM
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This will explain alot of the differing Preterist views.
http://preteristarchive.com
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Old 07-01-2007, 11:41 AM
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This will explain alot of the differing Preterist views.
http://preteristarchive.com
Bro., do you know how FP's answer the issue of satan being in the lake of fire, along with death?
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