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Old 07-28-2012, 11:01 AM
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When God's wrath falls on the antichrist system and we fight in the final last day battle, killing will be just. At this current time are we not commanded to preach the Gospel to all the world? I hardly think killing another human being has anyhing to do with preaching the Gospel.
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Old 07-28-2012, 11:12 AM
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Why would God allow the first Gentile to be filled with the Holy Ghost to be a military man?
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Old 07-28-2012, 11:15 AM
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Re: Military Service

Luke 12:39 and Matt. 25:43 "But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up."

You cannot find any evidence in the NT that killing or murder was accepted. For when Peter tried to cut the ear off the soldier, Jesus put it back on, and told him to put his sword up. You can find no other mention in the NT about standing up to the political system of the day, at all, other than the two verses I mention above.

So I think that as long as we are defending our home, and our families, it seems that it would be okay to take defensive action, if there is no other way.

Regarding defending one's country, again, as you see all throughout the OT that is expected of a man, but in the NT, there is no mention of any of the apostles, or disciples of Jesus defending Israel or partaking in any kind of Roman army position or opposition.

So, the rational thing to conclude would be that Jesus ushered in a new kingdom of love at Calvary, and that meant loving your enemies, and doing good to those that despitefully used you; yet according to the two scriptures above, it does seem that protecting your home, and those you love against the thief and robber were expected of a man.
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Old 07-28-2012, 11:18 AM
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When did Jesus command the Centurion to get out of the military-- before or after he healed his daughter?
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Old 07-28-2012, 12:06 PM
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Re: Military Service

Excellent Q. When did He ask the Centurion if
he knew the Lord, or what he thought about
the state of his eternal soul?

Christ started a revolution in that Centurion's life
in His action; He didn't need to say anything, imo.
Had the Centurion asked how to become a follower,
one may contrast His answer with ours in the present day:
"Count the cost."
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Old 07-28-2012, 12:53 PM
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Excellent Q. When did He ask the Centurion if
he knew the Lord, or what he thought about
the state of his eternal soul?

Christ started a revolution in that Centurion's life
in His action; He didn't need to say anything, imo.
Had the Centurion asked how to become a follower,
one may contrast His answer with ours in the present day:
"Count the cost."
Well I for one am not willing to add to the Bible.
What's your answer for Cornelius' conversion?
Why didn't God send an angel to tell Cornelius to get out of the military?
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Old 07-28-2012, 02:08 PM
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It's okay for an AMERICAN CHRISTIAN to kill an IRANIAN CHRISTIAN when AMERICA is engaged in a war against IRAQ.
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Old 07-28-2012, 03:55 PM
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please. and then you woke up. tell me that was TIC.

"What's your answer for Cornelius' conversion?
Why didn't God send an angel to tell Cornelius to get out of the military?"

Well, w/the understanding that my answer is a guess:
Because that is what a human would do, but to God,
manifested in Christ, that is completely unnecessary.
My guess is that the Centurion saw his daughter in every
subsequent foe--however, this was OT, and war was a fact of life?
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Old 07-28-2012, 06:29 PM
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It's okay for an AMERICAN CHRISTIAN to kill an IRANIAN CHRISTIAN when AMERICA is engaged in a war against IRAQ.
I am sure both combatants will have a laugh about it when they meet in heaven. (No sarcasm intended.)
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Old 07-28-2012, 07:07 PM
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I am sure both combatants will have a laugh about it when they meet in heaven. (No sarcasm intended.)
Wow.
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