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bbyrd009 · #11 02-16-2012, 08:23 AM

Lol. Our proxy for "creation."

AreYouReady? · #12 02-16-2012, 08:23 AM

It's not about knocking how other posters express themselves. I am no more a master communicator than many here. In fact, I am probably the least of communicators here. However, words have meanings and we should learn to express ourselves (myself included) because we know the enemy can and does twist our lack of communication skills to change what we may try to express. "Accepting Jesus" and being chosen by Him to do His work are two different things. We are likewise called to exhort one another and to learn from each other in Christian like-mindedness. Discussion does not have to be done in hostility as some say they see on these forums.

Now if we are going to say we "accept Him", shouldn't we really be saying that we accept his calling to do the work to serve Him because we have been chosen by Him for his specific purpose in our life?

Many people accept our Lord and Savior, but do we perform the works in which we are called to do is the question? According to the scripture below, we must be chosen according to Christ's criteria, not our own.

9 Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.
10 So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.
11 ¶And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:
12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.
13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

(Matthew 22:14)

Forgivenson brought up a very important subject. He asks "why" people choose not to believe. He says he has always believed but did not "actively" come to Him as yet.

So, I am thinking the same thing for myself except that I am going to add that I always "accepted" that Jesus existed and "accepted" Him, but did I truly accept that He chose me to fulfill a work for His cause? This is why I have a problem with just saying that we accept Jesus. We are chosen by Him and we should desire to not just be called, but to be among the chosen.

Forgivenson, your post is not "silly" ... rather it is a very important thought you brought up.

bbyrd009 · #13 02-16-2012, 08:42 AM

yup.

Titus2woman · #14 02-16-2012, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

It's not about knocking how other posters express themselves. I am no more a master communicator than many here. In fact, I am probably the least of communicators here. However, words have meanings and we should learn to express ourselves (myself included) because we know the enemy can and does twist our lack of communication skills to change what we may try to express. "Accepting Jesus" and being chosen by Him to do His work are two different things. We are likewise called to exhort one another and to learn from each other in Christian like-mindedness. Discussion does not have to be done in hostility as some say they see on these forums.

Now if we are going to say we "accept Him", shouldn't we really be saying that we accept his calling to do the work to serve Him because we have been chosen by Him for his specific purpose in our life?

Many people accept our Lord and Savior, but do we perform the works in which we are called to do is the question? According to the scripture below, we must be chosen according to Christ's criteria, not our own.

9 Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.
10 So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.
11 ¶And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:
12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.
13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

(Matthew 22:14)

Forgivenson brought up a very important subject. He asks "why" people choose not to believe. He says he has always believed but did not "actively" come to Him as yet.

So, I am thinking the same thing for myself except that I am going to add that I always "accepted" that Jesus existed and "accepted" Him, but did I truly accept that He chose me to fulfill a work for His cause? This is why I have a problem with just saying that we accept Jesus. We are chosen by Him and we should desire to not just be called, but to be among the chosen.

Forgivenson, your post is not "silly" ... rather it is a very important thought you brought up.

I see what you are saying AYR... I just know that some people who express themselves as having 'accepted' Jesus do indeed show a life regenerated and the lack of respect shown them by many OPs who insist that they can not possibly be 'saved', not being able to articualte themselves in the precise words of thier (OPs) belief system gets on my very last half a nerve

Please do not see my post as contradicting anything you personally have said which is a very good point.

AreYouReady? · #15 02-16-2012, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Titus2woman

I see what you are saying AYR... I just know that some people who express themselves as having 'accepted' Jesus do indeed show a life regenerated and the lack of respect shown them by many OPs who insist that they can not possibly be 'saved', not being able to articualte themselves in the precise words of thier (OPs) belief system gets on my very last half a nerve

Please do not see my post as contradicting anything you personally have said which is a very good point.

I'm cool with what you are saying sister. I just wanted to try to express myself a little further on the subject. Having dialogue helps to bring more thought out
on the subject.

And yes, you are right about some of the OP thought process. I had a friend who was baptized in Jesus Name and filled with the Holy Ghost and lived the OP lifestyle for many years. She began to actually read what was in the bible and saw some inaccuracies in what she was taught. One day she had her hair cut and styled. It was still long, just styled very pretty. She went to a ladies meeting and felt that what she contributed spiritually was not taken seriously because she was viewed as "backslidden" for the sole reason her hair was cut.

She left our area and I miss her.

Believe it or not, sometimes leaving the OP movement brings about Spiritual regeneration. Why? Because when one leaves, one is not worn down with extra biblical baggage that disrupts the growing spiritual process and abundant life that Christ speaks we can obtain. We are freer to put our energy into learning and praying without worrying about how we look in the movement's vision. Sometimes I think OP polices people rather than to exhort them into higher spiritual teachings.

Titus2woman · #16 02-16-2012, 12:02 PM

I'll expand my thoughts just a little here as well.

Many times it is the 'sinners prayer' that includes the term 'accept Jesus as personal savior' and those that have come to Christ in denominations that practice it that repeat the terms quoted by the original poster. For that reason I saw the original post as a slight to those who express faith this way.

It is often the postition of OPs that these people can not 'recieve' salvation in this way. Yet, I personally have lived long enough to know people who have come to Christ in just this way, including those who have lived and died in the faith without wavering. It is the single point that drives me from the UPCI like no other.

Over the years I have met many in other denominations who more fully understood their reason for baptism than many who slide beneath the water of Oness Pentecostal Baptistries. Many who have a faithful prayer life, who have witnessed signs and wonders following, who have remained faithful through extreme adversity.... Yet if you asked the average OP... while they would say 'I would not judge' ... in their heart of hearts they believe that these people of other denominations are indeed lost for lack of following the three step formula.

I do not express my own conversion as 'accepting Jesus' but I do not wonder about any who do, personally believing that between them and God. But then again I'm a very eyes on my own paper kind of girl.