Is it really revival?

38Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

39For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the LORD our God shall call.

40And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.

41Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.

42And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

Huh? Let's see. Doctrine is teaching or message. Wasn't repentance, water baptism in Jesus name and recieving the Holy Ghost was thier doctrine?

Gal 1:8-9
8But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

9As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

So what is this really saying?

[truthseeker3139]

Acts 16:29-34
29Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas,

30And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?

31And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

32And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house.

33And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway.

34And when he had brought them into his house, he set meat before them, and rejoiced, believing in God with all his house.

Did Paul preach a different gospel?

[Jekyll]

Originally Posted by truthseeker3139

Acts 16:29-34
29Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas,

30And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?

31And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

32And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house.

33And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway.

34And when he had brought them into his house, he set meat before them, and rejoiced, believing in God with all his house.

Did Paul preach a different gospel?

you forgot to bold the red part...

[Whole Hearted]

Brother Blacksher there can be no true revival unless the truth in it's entirety is being preached. If the one that is preaching is preaching the truth then it can be a revival even if the assembly it's being preach in doesn't have the truth. But it CANNOT be a revival if the one preaching doesn't have this ACTS 2: 38 truth, then it's just a meeting.

[Truly Blessed]

Originally Posted by Gary Blacksher

I do not believe one can hold to false doctrine and have a real Apostolic revival.

Do you know of any Apostolic revivals currently taking place?

[Truly Blessed]

Originally Posted by Gary Blacksher

So are you saying that a person can be born again without the Acts 2:38 message?

How do you define "born again"?

[Truly Blessed]

Originally Posted by Gary Blacksher

38Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

39For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the LORD our God shall call.

40And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.

41Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.

42And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

Huh? Let's see. Doctrine is teaching or message. Wasn't repentance, water baptism in Jesus name and recieving the Holy Ghost was thier doctrine?

Gal 1:8-9
8But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

9As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

So what is this really saying?

"Now, brothers, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain. For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, and that he appeared to Peter, and then to the Twelve. After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles, and last of all he appeared to me also, as to one abnormally born." (1Cor.15:1-8)

[Truly Blessed]

"Men of Israel, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know. This man was handed over to you by God's set purpose and foreknowledge; and you, with the help of wicked men, put him to death by nailing him to the cross. But God raised him from the dead, freeing him from the agony of death, because it was impossible for death to keep its hold on him. David said about him:

" 'I saw the Lord always before me.
Because he is at my right hand,
I will not be shaken.
Therefore my heart is glad and my tongue rejoices;
my body also will live in hope,
because you will not abandon me to the grave,
nor will you let your Holy One see decay.
You have made known to me the paths of life;
you will fill me with joy in your presence.'

"Brothers, I can tell you confidently that the patriarch David died and was buried, and his tomb is here to this day. But he was a prophet and knew that God had promised him on oath that he would place one of his descendants on his throne. Seeing what was ahead, he spoke of the resurrection of the Christ, that he was not abandoned to the grave, nor did his body see decay. God has raised this Jesus to life, and we are all witnesses of the fact. Exalted to the right hand of God, he has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and has poured out what you now see and hear. For David did not ascend to heaven, and yet he said,

" 'The Lord said to my Lord:
"Sit at my right hand
until I make your enemies
a footstool for your feet." '

"Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ." (Acts 2:22-36)

This is gospel that Peter preached on the Day of Pentecost that brought conviction to those who asked in verse 37, "What shall we do?"

Acts 2:38 is not the message that brought conviction, it was the preaching of the gospel as defined by the Apostle Paul, death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ!

That message worked then and it is working very well today!

[ManOfWord]

The amazing thing to me is that historically, (Book of Acts excepted) there are ZERO recorded major Ac. 2:38 "revivals" that have shaken the world and left their mark similar to other historical revivals. Azusa was not an Ac. 2:38 revival and neither we the subsequent moves of God or revivals.

The only ones people point to are the ones in Africa etc. and almost everyone who goes there for mass meetings has the same results if one does their research and reading.

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by Gary Blacksher

It it really revival when the ones hosting it do not have the truth about salvation?

Can one really have a TRUE Revival without preaching the oneness of God and the Acts 2:38 plan of salvation?

Gary...
You know that the book of Acts has no ending. I think that it is always revival reguardless of which demomination it is in IF the Holy Ghost is moving. "In the last days I will pour of my spirit upon all flesh.." This says nothing about Oneness or trinitarians. Straights, gays, left handed or right handed. So it is revival if it meets with scripture. I mean in Acts we see the revival with Jews and Gentiles alike. Only the Jews were one-God believers beforehand.

Having said that there are churches that do not have the HG moving in the services and such. Some of these have very large assemblies. The Bible says we all have a measure of faith. At least they go somewhere, but if we are to do our job they will hear the Acts 2:38 response to the Message. But I know God will pour out revival in the last days even though they may not be oneness. Why? God said so.