AMF/Tulsa: the result of "tradition of men"

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by sallyjo76

I know Churches that are AMF even some that joined up with the Tulsa group and some that are in UPC that have pretty much the same standard.
Will we all agree on every thing?? No, but the Revelation of who Jesus Christ is, is our common factor.

But.....that's not good enough!

[Apprehended]

Originally Posted by big-larry

There are many other sacred cows, besides TV. Pants, shorts, jewlery, make-up, ball games, movies, men/women's hair, red dresses, open-toed shoes, and the list goes on and on, ad nauseam. In many individual cases I've seen, these traditions of men are just ignored, however it the case of TV, license holders were forced be a non licence holder, a non TV owner or a liar.

When push finally came to shove, in the form of Res #4, Tulsa resulted, just as AMF resulted from some of the other traditions of men, being taught for doctrine. I am not saying that AMF and TULSA are either good or bad, just that they resulted from traditions of men being taught for doctrine.

You don't know if they are good or bad? From your own scriptures, Jesus did not think very highly of the traditions of men. He seems to have condemned them, from what I can see...especially since he said that it rendered the Word of God to none affect.

I would come down on the side of "bad."

Originally Posted by Pianoman

But.....that's not good enough!

What is "Good Enough" then?

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by pastorswife

What is "Good Enough" then?

The Oneness revelation alone is not good enough to keep Apostolics together in one accord. The family has been splintered probably beyond repair.

[NW Pastor]

Originally Posted by Apprehended

You don't know if they are good or bad? From your own scriptures, Jesus did not think very highly of the traditions of men. He seems to have condemned them, from what I can see...especially since he said that it rendered the Word of God to none affect.

I would come down on the side of "bad."

Many traditions have great usefulness and accomplish the purposes of Christ and the church.

We all have traditions to which we adhere that have value. They are handed down by families, churches, political systems, etc...and have served us very well. Traditions can stablize us and provide a sense of connectedness and accountability to something bigger than ourselves.

So, can we really throw out all traditions? The problem is making our traditions God's. They ceace to derive their purpose from their effectivenss and become fixtures of society, family, or the church long after the reason for existance is past.

Knowing which man-made traditions to alter and when is tricky.

[Apprehended]

Originally Posted by NW Pastor

Many traditions have great usefulness and accomplish the purposes of Christ and the church.

We all have traditions to which we adhere that have value. They are handed down by families, churches, political systems, etc...and have served us very well. Traditions can stablize us and provide a sense of connectedness and accountability to something bigger than ourselves.

So, can we really throw out all traditions? The problem is making our traditions God's. They ceace to derive their purpose from their effectivenss and become fixtures of society, family, or the church long after the reason for existance is past.

Knowing which man-made traditions to alter and when is tricky.

Amen. I agree.

We have to have structure in our lives and much of that is traditions handed to us.

[NW Pastor]

Originally Posted by Apprehended

Amen. I agree.

We have to have structure in our lives and much of that is traditions handed to us.

Right on! Just so long as we don't make our thoughts God's thoughts. It should be vice-versa.

[Bro-Larry]

Originally Posted by Apprehended

You don't know if they are good or bad? From your own scriptures, Jesus did not think very highly of the traditions of men. He seems to have condemned them, from what I can see...especially since he said that it rendered the Word of God to none affect.

I would come down on the side of "bad."

You're putting words in my mouth. I didn't say I didn't know. I said I wasn't saying good or bad.

I don't want to be banned.

[Bro-Larry]

Originally Posted by Thumper

So Larry what traditions of men resulted in the formation of the AMF?

I could tell you what I remember, but it might be considered bashing.

[NW Pastor]

Originally Posted by big-larry

I could tell you what I remember, but it might be considered bashing.

Don't you know nothin' Larry? Truth telling is bashing!!