I'm being bewitched.

[Flutecrafter]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

The occult may be real, but do they really have "occult" powers?

Some do.
some don't.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Flutecrafter

I am a former occultist.
The Scriptures in Exodus prove you are incorrect
I promote Jesus and His offer of freedom.

Glory to God!

Have you ever read the book, The Beautiful Side of Evil? Interesting stuff.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Flutecrafter

then you are calling God a liar.

I left the occult many years ago, so again, you are having difficulty
with the written language skills.

hard for you to be close to God when you are calling Him a liar and
encouraging someone to sin.

you have no idea.


try going back and reading your bible.

... more bunk, mark. Sorry, but I've been around too many folks who make the same sorts of noise as you and there's just never any substance. You played make-believe when you were an "occultist" and now you appear to play the same game among gullible Christians.

"Just pretend" and "Make Believe."

I'm certainly not calling God a "liar," but there is a whole lot of baloney coming from you.

[Flutecrafter]

Originally Posted by pelathais

... more bunk, mark. Sorry, but I've been around too many folks who make the same sorts of noise as you and there's just never any substance. You played make-believe when you were an "occultist" and now you appear to play the same game among gullible Christians.

"Just pretend" and "Make Believe."

I'm certainly not calling God a "liar," but there is a whole lot of baloney coming from you.

Since God's word quite clearly shows that magik is real, and you say that
it is not, then yes, you are indeed calling God a liar.
You were trying to convince me to revert to magik, a known sin, as well.

Both of which put you in a very interesting position, not a good one, but an interesting one.
You should probably ponder why you value your opinion above God's Word.


mark

[Flutecrafter]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

Glory to God!

Have you ever read the book, The Beautiful Side of Evil? Interesting stuff.

Afraid that I haven't.

[Nibenon]

@Flutecrafter: be nice, dad. He can't be expected to understand that which He doesn't wish to believe. If Pelathais wishes to remain ignorant of the spiritual realm and power that exists, let him. God allows us all to be fools as we so choose.

[nahkoe]

Originally Posted by Nibenon

@Flutecrafter: be nice, dad. He can't be expected to understand that which He doesn't wish to believe. If Pelathais wishes to remain ignorant of the spiritual realm and power that exists, let him. God allows us all to be fools as we so choose.

Of all the people on the forum..Pelathias is one of the last I would call a fool.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Flutecrafter

Since God's word quite clearly shows that magik is real, and you say that
it is not, then yes, you are indeed calling God a liar.
You were trying to convince me to revert to magik, a known sin, as well.

Both of which put you in a very interesting position, not a good one, but an interesting one.
You should probably ponder why you value your opinion above God's Word.


mark

Where? Everything that I can recall being magick related can be just as easily explained as trickery.

[Nibenon]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Where? Everything that I can recall being magick related can be just as easily explained as trickery.

In Exodus, it says the magicians of Egypt did such an such. It doesn't say they faked it. How do you explain them turning staves into snakes, Frog Meister? Exodus 7 shows magik being used. Exodus 7:8-13 8 The LORD said to Moses and Aaron, 9 “When Pharaoh says to you, ‘Perform a miracle,’ then say to Aaron, ‘Take your staff and throw it down before Pharaoh,’ and it will become a snake.”
10 So Moses and Aaron went to Pharaoh and did just as the LORD commanded. Aaron threw his staff down in front of Pharaoh and his officials, and it became a snake. 11 Pharaoh then summoned wise men and sorcerers, and the Egyptian magicians also did the same things by their secret arts: 12 Each one threw down his staff and it became a snake. But Aaron’s staff swallowed up their staffs. 13 Yet Pharaoh’s heart became hard and he would not listen to them, just as the LORD had said.

Originally Posted by nahkoe

Of all the people on the forum..Pelathias is one of the last I would call a fool.

Calling God a liar is foolish. I have spoken nothing more than the Truth, Nahkoe. God does indeed allow us to be so, does he not? In my reply to jfrog I have shown the use of magik in the Bible. Pelathais, do you continue to say God is a liar?
Acts 8:9 But there was a certain man, called Simon, which beforetime in the same city used sorcery, and bewitched the people of Samaria, giving out that himself was some great one:
This one seems fairly fitting to this thread as it is.

It doesn't say he faked. It says he used.

~Paul

[Cindy]