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Old 12-05-2008, 04:40 PM
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Revelation has nothing to do with being "simple" or learned. That is the reason, it is revelation. God has chosen the simple to confound the wise.

My two cents (know I wasn't the one asked)... whether or not it is a "hell" issue depends on what is not understood.

No matter how sincere, will someone who does not understand or accept that Jesus died for their sins heaven bound?
I agree with your point on what is understood. That is my question concerning TV if the scripture used to preach against it is the one about setting no evil thing in front of you, to most of us that is reffering to idolotry. however some believe the TV is an idol and is worshipped and I do believe the time some people spend in front of one could be considered worship. But depending on ones lifestyle that time spent could also be on other things but yet TV is a huge sin in some camps. The same camp that has the understanding of TV being a sin believes us TV watchers will go to hell. So is this a hell issue. I do not know the answer. I have always believed that if it is a hell issue it would be there in black and white or red. The Bible mentions hell 3 times more than it does Heaven. OK I am finished but if anyone understands my questions on what is understood please help me understand so i will have a better understanding on what is understood.
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Cheers to diversity my good brother!
And we should be glad that you are here because you are pointing out what you think is wrong with AFF?
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Is that name calling without saying so?

Some of you are more protective of AFF than you are your churches or our pastors. I think there are good people on AFF. I'm explaining why I said what I did earlier. Phelps, if you don't like it, you have the same right. Opinions vary on here, and not all are subject to your own.
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Old 12-05-2008, 04:42 PM
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Cheers to diversity my good brother!
Diversity is encouraged. Self righteousness is not. I think you might want to learn the difference.
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And we should be glad that you are here because you are pointing out what you think is wrong with AFF?
Ah, but is this the one question off limits? I thought we just established this my a prior poster.
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Well allow me to use another analogy as you've compared this one to drunkenness. The homosexual movement has advanced their cause by "just asking why" so often that the resolve of Americans has run this and most can care less. What we talk about and the reasons we talk about them are extremely important. see Phil 4:8 for more.

No one has said asking questions equals defamation. Defamation, by definition, is when someone makes a false claim,expressly stated or implied, to be factual, that may give an individual, business, group, organization, etc... a negative image. Slander is spoken, so wouldn't apply on AFF.

Ask any question you want. Just keep it questions until all facts are known. In this case, facts weren't known. I was PMd by an involved party with the facts earlier this morning. Posters are just quick to run their mouths WITHOUT first asking enough questions. Yes, people leave church often because of GOSSIP.
Who are you talking about??

We can not do anything unless someone reports the posts-

But as Mike said, if you feel so despairingly about AFF why come here?
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Diversity is encouraged. Self righteousness is not. I think you might want to learn the difference.
So your defense of AFF is not self-righteous, but others posters who tell others to save their judgement is self-righteous? I think you need a new measuring stick.
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Is that name calling without saying so?

Some of you are more protective of AFF than you are your churches or our pastors. I think there are good people on AFF. I'm explaining why I said what I did earlier. Phelps, if you don't like it, you have the same right. Opinions vary on here, and not all are subject to your own.
No it's not, you would know if I called YOU a name. And neither my pastor or my church need defending. I do not, nor ever will bash a preacher or pastor.
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So your defense of AFF is not self-righteous, but others posters who tell others to save their judgement is self-righteous? I think you need a new measuring stick.
Your attitude and condescension stinks worse than most of the things I read on here. Just calling them like I see them.
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Who are you talking about??

We can not do anything unless someone reports the posts-

But as Mike said, if you feel so despairingly about AFF why come here?
I'm always here. I decided to speak up today (and yesterday). And look at the mob gather 'round.
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