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01-09-2013, 07:59 AM
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Re: Guns: An Important Discussion
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Yes if I really thought it would. I believe God would forgive me. The scenario you propose is one that ethics classes bring up a lot. Conflicting choices. When all choices you have will result in some wrong so you have to decide which wrong you will do.
For example the Bible instructs us to be kind to one another and to turn the other cheek but if a violent evil person is threatening our family it is our duty to protect them and that may involve NOT being kind or turning the other cheek. I have absoultely no ethical dilemma in that situation. I will protect my family.
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What would be a line of obedience that you wouldn't cross? Would you burn inscense to the emperor?
Obedience might cost us our lives... and yes... sadly... it might cost our family dearly at the hands of a crazed maniac or godless government.
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01-09-2013, 12:03 PM
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Re: Guns: An Important Discussion
Basically, being a Christian isn't for the weak of heart or the cowardly. One must be prepared to suffer abuse, persecution, and even death at the hands of another as a result to obedience to Christ.
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01-09-2013, 03:10 PM
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Re: Guns: An Important Discussion
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Originally Posted by CC1
Yes if I really thought it would. I believe God would forgive me. The scenario you propose is one that ethics classes bring up a lot. Conflicting choices. When all choices you have will result in some wrong so you have to decide which wrong you will do.
For example the Bible instructs us to be kind to one another and to turn the other cheek but if a violent evil person is threatening our family it is our duty to protect them and that may involve NOT being kind or turning the other cheek. I have absoultely no ethical dilemma in that situation. I will protect my family.
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Have you trained your wife and daughters to think this way? If they would save your life, their brothers lives, their childrens lives, by giving sexual favors? Would you be ok with that?
How about when the mark of the beast is established? Your wife and kids have not eaten for a week. You know they will soon die. You reason ok to save them I will have to take the mark but surely God will forgive me. Whats the difference?
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01-09-2013, 04:10 PM
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Re: Guns: An Important Discussion
Check out this blog post for another spin on this gun debate: Grab Your Gun, Jesus.
http://parablesblog.blogspot.com/201...-gun-grab.html
After reading that post, because there was such an outcry regarding the author's perspective, he wrote a second article including his life story there. Quite a story!
Be sure and read his second post called Gun Ownership and the Mind of Christ
http://parablesblog.blogspot.com/201...of-christ.html
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01-09-2013, 04:38 PM
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Re: Guns: An Important Discussion
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Well, the first blog is when they came to take Jesus to be crucified, right? Why would he resist knowing it HAD to happen to carry out the plans of His Father?
That was NOT about self defense, IMO.
But, I do believe that if you live your life as a criminal that uses weapons, you are more likely to kill or be killed that way.
That is NOT self defense, either.
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He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
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01-09-2013, 04:44 PM
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Re: Guns: An Important Discussion
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Wow really good. I am in almost full agreement with his writing on the matter.
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01-09-2013, 05:57 PM
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Re: Guns: An Important Discussion
Yes, this is a very good thought provoking blog.
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01-09-2013, 07:40 PM
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01-09-2013, 08:23 PM
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Re: Guns: An Important Discussion
As of tonight I am the proud owner of a new DPMS Panther Oracle A15 semi automatic rifle! After searching online, gunstores and gunshows in Middle Tennessee, and this week gun stores in Georgia and Alabama while I traveled I ran across a gun store in Huntsville, Alabama who were the only ones not jacking up the prices to $2,000+ on all AR 15's.
My rifle six months ago would have cost about $750 and I paid $1,099 for it. I feel very lucky in the current situation to have only paid $350 more than before the likely pending outlawing of sales of semi automatics. Every place else is selling these for at least $1600.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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01-09-2013, 08:55 PM
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Re: Guns: An Important Discussion
Kill those sinners..................
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