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Old 06-11-2007, 06:39 PM
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It wasn't junk, just a bunch of young fellas wanting to be used and get closer to Him..that's all.
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Old 06-11-2007, 06:40 PM
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It wasn't junk, just a bunch of young fellas wanting to be used and get closer to Him..that's all.
couldn't imagine someone would have a problem with that...
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Old 06-11-2007, 06:44 PM
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couldn't imagine someone would have a problem with that...
yeah, go figure! Imagine the whuppin Jesus would get today!!! He'd be outcast to the back pew....not for long, hehe!
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Old 06-11-2007, 07:08 PM
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You make an assumption from what the scripture DOESN'T say:

And all the city was moved, and the people ran together: and they took Paul, and drew him out of the temple: and forthwith the doors were shut.
[31] And as they went about to kill him, tidings came unto the chief captain of the band, that all Jerusalem was in an uproar.
[32] Who immediately took soldiers and centurions, and ran down unto them: and when they saw the chief captain and the soldiers, they left beating of Paul.
[33] Then the chief captain came near, and took him, and commanded him to be bound with two chains; and demanded who he was, and what he had done.

I would say that the Jews had already bound him (as they were beating him, and it can be rather difficult to hit a moving target); it was the Romans who commanded Paul bound with two chains (additional restraint, because the Word of God is not in error)

Well as long as we are discussing theology, lets use a common law from Hermeneutics, the arguement from Silence, seeing that we do not have every prophecy uttered in the NT we really can't assume that prophets or those that gave prophetic words didn't give accurate words.

But we can assume that there was that possiblity, thus the admonitions to test and judge (discern) words from God.
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Old 06-11-2007, 07:09 PM
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It wasn't junk, just a bunch of young fellas wanting to be used and get closer to Him..that's all.
William Sowders and the School of Prophet movement is NOT junk then what would qualify?
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Old 06-12-2007, 04:37 PM
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Well as long as we are discussing theology, lets use a common law from Hermeneutics, the arguement from Silence, seeing that we do not have every prophecy uttered in the NT we really can't assume that prophets or those that gave prophetic words didn't give accurate words.

But we can assume that there was that possiblity, thus the admonitions to test and judge (discern) words from God.
But, we can use the same argument from silence, and thereby assert that prophets in the New Testament gave accurate words. We could also assume that, because the Old Testament principle is never directly revised in New Testament teaching, it is still in effect. Thus the importance of understanding the difference between the gift of prophecy and the office of the prophet.

I infer from Paul's teaching to the church at Corinth that it was not uncommon to have more than one prophet in an assembly (or at least, in the Corinthian church):

I Corinthians 14:29-33
Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.
If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace.
For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted.
And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.
For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
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Old 06-12-2007, 05:02 PM
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William Sowders and the School of Prophet movement is NOT junk then what would qualify?
I wasn't addressing Sowder elder, just the young men in Stockton and their meetings.
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Old 06-12-2007, 06:13 PM
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But, we can use the same argument from silence, and thereby assert that prophets in the New Testament gave accurate words. We could also assume that, because the Old Testament principle is never directly revised in New Testament teaching, it is still in effect. Thus the importance of understanding the difference between the gift of prophecy and the office of the prophet.

I infer from Paul's teaching to the church at Corinth that it was not uncommon to have more than one prophet in an assembly (or at least, in the Corinthian church):

I Corinthians 14:29-33
Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.
If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace.
For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted.
And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.
For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
It's not in effect when it comes to the gift of prophecy/prophets, or the penalty would be effect also.

The manifestation of this gift might be similar but the function and and usage under the new convenant altogether has changed. Thus all can prophesy Joel 2:28; I Cor. 14; I Peter

That passage in Deut.18 has to do with the office of Moses and anyone who would come after him who would draw away from the worship of the one true God, v15 details this.
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Old 06-12-2007, 06:30 PM
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I picked up a Herald, something I haven't done in at least a year, and was browsing a Special Issue recently put out. I noticed that there is a "School of Prophets" conference going to be held in Stockton at Christian Life on July 23-27.

The listed preachers are Nathaniel Haney, Eli Lopez, Lee Stoneking, John Arcovio, Matt Maddix, Anthony Romo, and Ronnie Mullings.


My question is simple. Where are the Prophets?? Did they forget to list them?
Morton Bustard is not listed!!!!!!! Say it isn't so!
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Old 06-12-2007, 08:02 PM
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Morton Bustard is not listed!!!!!!! Say it isn't so!
I think your relative and my friend has fallen out of favor, sad because he was there at the beginning, as was I, but I didn't get a invitation either.
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