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Old 10-31-2009, 01:05 PM
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Another angle to discuss on the topic of fear; we had a visiting preacher (that I love and respect) yesterday and he preached one of those "get in the ark, the end is coming" messages. It has been a long time since I have heard a message like that, and it confirmed my feeling about them, I thoroughly dislike them. Very little scripture and a whole lot of hype. I have never seen any permanent results out of fear tactics, and it is disturbing to me. He also made several comments about not questioning your pastor, he is the one watching for your soul... that gave me cold chills, I KNOW there is no scripture for that one!
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I question everything preached. I take out my Greek/KJV parallel and look things up in
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He also made several comments about not questioning your pastor, he is the one watching for your soul... that gave me cold chills, I KNOW there is no scripture for that one!
It's a very common teaching, and contributes to the fear.
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Another angle to discuss on the topic of fear; we had a visiting preacher (that I love and respect) yesterday and he preached one of those "get in the ark, the end is coming" messages. It has been a long time since I have heard a message like that, and it confirmed my feeling about them, I thoroughly dislike them. Very little scripture and a whole lot of hype. I have never seen any permanent results out of fear tactics, and it is disturbing to me. He also made several comments about not questioning your pastor, he is the one watching for your soul... that gave me cold chills, I KNOW there is no scripture for that one!
Haven't you heard one of the many tales about someone questioning their pastor, and then dying? It is sort of like the tale about "someone I know who knows someone" that once got over a 100 mpg on their car before it was "fixed" in the shop, thus bringing its mileage back to the normal 15-20 mpg range.
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Haven't you heard one of the many tales about someone questioning their pastor, and then dying? . . .
Yep. Or lying to the preacher and dropping dead on the spot. That one's been floating around for centuries!
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I haven’t read much of this thread. (OneAccord’s post was great)

But this is a subject that I have spent some time thinking about.

The 1970s “rapture can happen any second” sermons left me with panic attacks as a pre-teen. I lived in fear. I would literally have panic attacks if I couldn’t find my mom (she was the only person I was sure was saved). I even had a plan in place in case the rapture came so I wouldn’t get my head cut off.

I lived in fear. It was terrible. Now I reject any of that kind of thing and it makes me angry when someone tries to walk down that road. I cannot find a way to see that as “Godly” or in keeping with sound teaching.

But the fear of God remains the beginning of wisdom. Not because I said it but because the Word of God said it.

I firmly believe that in some weird wisdomless effort to capitalize on natural fears in the culture of the 1970’s we lost scared people so badly we have lost the ability to preach and teach honest truth about the fear of God.

AND we are the losers for it. The fear of God should not lead where One Accord and I both went. In my fear of God I ran. I ran and paid the price for running. I wasn’t taught really well I suppose. I suspect most of us weren’t.

Having said that, in general I believe that the fear of God is something that while good for everyone is more important for preachers. Preachers had better fear God. NOT fearing God leads to a god complex. It leads to pride and pride will always lead to a big ole fall. I’ve seen too many preachers fall and in all the cases I am close to, I can honestly say something happened that left that guy without any fear of the All Mighty. They were able to “fake it” long enough that they began to believe that God was ok with their sin.

He isn’t. They paid….dearly.
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I remember those hell, fire and brimstone messages...Richard Heard comes to mind...

I do believe that we should have a REVERENT fear of God...a fear that is healthy. Case in point...a body of water...it's beautiful and majestic, but it can be dangerous if not respected!!!!
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