Do you consider a fundamentalist, out of touch? - Page 13

Rico · #**121** 07-22-2008, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710

I am going to log off and go home to my preacher wife who tells me she will have dinner ready for me when I get there. Woooo hooo. She can preach and cook.

Just the fact that she can put up with you says volumes about her character!

SDG · #**122** 07-22-2008, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

Was he speaking to men or women disciples when he gave this command.. the gospel is more than JESUS LOVES YOU.. it is the entire counsel of God... the doctrines of Christ

The Gospel is the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ ....

Doctrines are teachings ...

Your position is that woman cannot proclaim the Gospel ... and in doing so they cannot teach doctrine.

SDG · #**123** 07-22-2008, 05:46 PM

Other than your strict constructionist view on marriage Doctor ...

You do not hold literal meanings for cut or preaching ....

Therefore you are not the fundamentalist you think you are.

#**124** 07-22-2008, 05:47 PM

1Chronicles 25:2, the sons of Asaph and Jeduthun "prophesied with the harp

Was the sons of Asaph & Jeduthun preaching here... because the word PROPHESY is used?

Sister Alvear · #**125** 07-22-2008, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

You're a precious lady Sis. Alvear

Thank you and hope I will always be remembered as a lady...not a woman that wanted to tell men what to do...but a lady that cared enough for souls that she was willing to share her basket of bread with others.

Love you folks.

#**126** 07-22-2008, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Other than your strict constructionist view on marriage Doctor ...

You do not hold literal meanings for cut or preaching ....

Therefore you are not the fundamentalist you think you are.

Dan, since your so into the word PREACH... heres a little suggestion

Can you find me ONE SCRIPTURE.. thats all, just one itty bitty scripture where that word is used in conjunction with a woman?

Now, I find 43 references in the NT to PREACHING and each time.. there is either a mans name there or a reference to MEN.... NOT ONCE is there a reference to women...

So if God is sooo for this idea of women preaching why isnt that word PREACH joined to at least ONE WOMAN in Holy Scripture?

#**127** 07-22-2008, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Thank you and hope I will always be remembered as a lady...not a woman that wanted to tell men what to do...but a lady that cared enough for souls that she was willing to share her basket of bread with others.

Love you folks.

Sis. Alvear.. may I ask a very personal question? You do not have to respond.. I respect that...

When you first went to Brazil, you were alone I believe?

You worked the field there alone... then you married, correct?

You now have a husband and sons that are in the ministry..... with those able men.. do you still consider yourself the leader of the ministry there.. or do you forsee a time when you will yield the reigns to these men or has that already happened.... just wondering how the ministry is set up there.. where the buck stops, if you will.

I know in my grandmothers church.... the pastorship was sort of thrust upon her.... yet she let the preachers in the church lead the services and if a male minister came into her services. she would always ask him to preach instead of her.. and thus her reputation as a lady....

Blessings

Sister Alvear · #**128** 07-22-2008, 06:15 PM

Before your time on the forum I once told my story...
Before I was married I built several churches and won souls to the Lord....in time I took care of 4 churches and several house meetings...
After I got married I called a preachers meeting and told our brothers that I was no longer the head that my husband was...
As anything it took time for the people to accept the fact that I really meant that...but time has proved that...
If I wanted to I could probably hold any position for our people love me BUT I do not want a position or authority...I am confortable just doing whatever is needed...

Right now I have had to help a lot because Brother Alvear is in the states and our son Arlei that was our co pastor moved to the jungle. We have other brothers that help but are not ready or mature enough for a lot of ministerial load on them...so like tonight I organized the brothers that went to the village churches...they still are in the stage here that they depend much on Brother Alvear. I stayed home and cooked supper and my other boys are also helping out...
I have been out most of the day...visiting...

My greatest joy is seeing them do whatever...but if they stumble I am around to give motherly advice...

I personally do not enjoy speaking in the presence of men ut if the need be I will arise and make up the gap...

Brother Vaughn, I know you do not know me but in the 10 years we have been here you could count on one hand how many times I have sat on the platform... I like to sit on the front bench and worship.

Praxeas · #**129** 07-22-2008, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

Dan, since your so into the word PREACH... heres a little suggestion

Can you find me ONE SCRIPTURE.. thats all, just one itty bitty scripture where that word is used in conjunction with a woman?

Now, I find 43 references in the NT to PREACHING and each time.. there is either a mans name there or a reference to MEN.... NOT ONCE is there a reference to women...

So if God is sooo for this idea of women preaching why isnt that word PREACH joined to at least ONE WOMAN in Holy Scripture?

the word preach simply means to proclaim. So if we are going to be literalists women can't proclaim to their neighbors, even other women that Jesus is Lord that they need to be saved?

What about teaching? Priscilla and Aquila both taught Apollos the way of the Lord.

I think the reason we don't see women doing things as much is because women were considered inferior submissive child bearers. That was their culture. Women didn't even attend schools. The men went to learn the bible and came home and taught the wives

Rico · #**130** 07-22-2008, 06:20 PM

DV, something I thought was worth mentioning. You start these threads and then wonder why people don't react the way you thought they would. It seems to me you are bringing much of this upon yourself because you are the one starting the threads you find yourself at odds with other posters in. Just something to think about.