Gay Marriage: For or Against? - Page 12

coadie · #**111** 08-31-2010, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Liberal

Life expectancy for a gay person is in the 40's????? See what I mean? You're using complete malarkey for this. The research you cite is a small sample from the obituaries from a gay newspaper from gay men who died of Aids.

Using garbage like this is exactly what I'm talking about when I use the word, "Homophobia."

I've tried to talk civilly to you but you're a blithering foghorn of bias noise.

Name calling instead of facts.

This is tough news. It's not pleasant to hear," said former Education Secretary William Bennett on ABC's This Week Nov. 9. "But it's very important, and it's part of telling the truth." The occasion for tough-but-needed truth telling: Bill Clinton's first-ever presidential speech to an organized gay-rights group, the Human Rights Campaign. Clinton had conferred respectability--wrongly--on the gay quest for approval when in fact, said Bennett, he "should tell the truth on this one": Homosexuality "takes 30 years off your life." The average life expectancy for gay men, Bennett declared, was just 43.

Can you set aside name calling and labeling and give us your stats?
I am sure high death rates for gays will cause gay activists to attack the messenger. Do it with data.

rgcraig · #**112** 08-31-2010, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by coadie

Name calling instead of facts.

This is tough news. It's not pleasant to hear," said former Education Secretary William Bennett on ABC's This Week Nov. 9. "But it's very important, and it's part of telling the truth." The occasion for tough-but-needed truth telling: Bill Clinton's first-ever presidential speech to an organized gay-rights group, the Human Rights Campaign. Clinton had conferred respectability--wrongly--on the gay quest for approval when in fact, said Bennett, he "should tell the truth on this one": Homosexuality "takes 30 years off your life." The average life expectancy for gay men, Bennett declared, was just 43.

Can you set aside name calling and labeling and give us your stats?
I am sure high death rates for gays will cause gay activists to attack the messenger. Do it with data.

LOL so Bennett's opinion on ABC's This Week is stats?

And to beat that - you Google it!

http://www.hypersync.net/mt/2004/10/...f_gay_men.html

coadie · #**113** 08-31-2010, 01:22 PM

By Jose Antonio Vargas and Darryl Fears
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, March 15, 2009

At least 3 percent of District residents have HIV or AIDS, a total that far surpasses the 1 percent threshold that constitutes a "generalized and severe" epidemic, according to a report scheduled to be released by health officials tomorrow.

Ron Simmons, who is black, gay and HIV positive, said he's not shocked by the study's findings. "You have a high incidence of HIV among African Americans, and a lot of African Americans live in the city," said Simmons, who is a member of a black gay support group. "D.C. also has a high number of gay men, and HIV is high among gay black men."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...T2009031402211

rgcraig · #**114** 08-31-2010, 01:23 PM

codie,

I think we're discussing gay marriage for or against it - - not the life expectancy of gays.

You are as annoying as a gnat!

berkeley · #**115** 08-31-2010, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

codie,

I think we're discussing gay marriage for or against it - - not the life expectancy of gays.

You are as annoying as a gnat!

Straining at a gnat...

DAII · #**116** 08-31-2010, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by coadie

By Jose Antonio Vargas and Darryl Fears
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, March 15, 2009

At least 3 percent of District residents have HIV or AIDS, a total that far surpasses the 1 percent threshold that constitutes a "generalized and severe" epidemic, according to a report scheduled to be released by health officials tomorrow.

Ron Simmons, who is black, gay and HIV positive, said he's not shocked by the study's findings. "You have a high incidence of HIV among African Americans, and a lot of African Americans live in the city," said Simmons, who is a member of a black gay support group. "D.C. also has a high number of gay men, and HIV is high among gay black men."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...T2009031402211

Still doesn't support your findings ...

1. The initial 3% who have HIV or not just gay.
2. The quote then moves on to say many are African American.

You're fallacious obfuscation still is unable to support your assertion.

Coadie, you struggle with logic and interpreting data.

rgcraig · #**117** 08-31-2010, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DAII

Still doesn't support your findings ...

1. The initial 3% who have HIV or not just gay.
2. The quote then moves on to say many are African American.

You're fallacious obfuscation still is unable to support your assertion.

Coadie, you struggle with logic and interpreting data.

He likes to pick cherries!

coadie · #**118** 08-31-2010, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

LOL so Bennett's opinion on ABC's This Week is stats?

And to beat that - you Google it!

http://www.hypersync.net/mt/2004/10/...f_gay_men.html

This is a politically not correct topic to research. Cause of death is usually medical, heart, cancer etc. The coroner can't ask sexual preference.
They can measure t-cells or other lab work but it doesn't give gender preference.

Written by J. Bennett Guess
September 14, 2007

A major insurance company that sought out business from a local United Church of Christ congregation in Michigan has subsequently refused to even provide a quote for coverage when it learned the church's denomination supported same-gender marriage equality and the ordination of gay clergy.

Brotherhood Mutual Insurance Company, based in Fort Wayne, Ind., told West Adrian United Church of Christ in Adrian, Mich., that its denomination's gay-affirming stances made it a "higher risk" for property and liability insurance.

"Our company's decision to not submit a quote to your organization arose out of information that was supplied in a supplemental application, indicating that your organization 'publicly endorses or practices the marriage of same-sex couples' and 'publicly endorses or practices the ordination of the homosexual clergy,'" wrote Marci J. Fretz, a regional underwriter for Brotherhood Mutual, in a July 30 letter to the church.

rgcraig · #**119** 08-31-2010, 01:35 PM

Has anyone ever smashed a gnat between your hands?

Seems like they always get away, doesn't it?

coadie · #**120** 08-31-2010, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

codie,

I think we're discussing gay marriage for or against it - - not the life expectancy of gays.

You are as annoying as a gnat!

almost there.

28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

How does a gay marriage obey this?

Be a fruit is not being fruitfull.
I had a gay boss for several years. He was not outspoken. Never once did he discuss his gay impersonator bar. It made him wealthy.
He was great to work for.