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Old 02-23-2007, 10:18 AM
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The truth is that many so called PAJCers don't have what the oldtimers did either.
Well, consecration seems to be harder to find.
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Old 02-23-2007, 10:18 AM
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Woah, Nelly.

Dave has been nothing but a gentleman.

He hangs around because he likes to stay in contact with his roots, and I am glad he does.

Well, maybe that's why the rest of us stay around the org. We wanna be connected to our roots, and we've invested a lot.
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Old 02-23-2007, 10:18 AM
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Anyone reading Patterson's book on baptism or the Godhead would have NEVER thought his view (thought PCI) was anything but standard Oneness thinking. He was emphatic. Gurley, Yadon and others preached Acts 2:38 so strong only those in the know would have known the difference. But today these folks who calim these as their roots are closer to what the PCI came out of istead of the PCI.
Let me toss another name in that hat. George L. Glass Sr. This man was my pastor as a child. he pastored my family for many years and was Pastor Emeritus of my home church until he died. GLG Sr. was PCI in organization. However we dont know what he was in doctrine. On NFCF one of the best threads on that site was about this man and TimLan said he thought he was PCI in doctrine.

I grew up under his ministry and the ministry of those he mentored. I have in the last year talked at length with his son GLG Jr. HE DOESNT KNOW.

I can tell you that he preached the Acts 2:38 message in our church without reservation. But when some PAJC men tried to nail him down asking "Do you believe that a person can go to heaven without the Holy Ghost" his pat answer was "I dont know why anyone would want to go to Heaven without the Holy Ghost"

This is MY heritage. I come from an old PCI church. Coonskinner is dead on.
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Old 02-23-2007, 10:19 AM
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Messianic? No.

Learning more about the Church's Hebrew roots, yes.
How do you feel about the local church as we know it, and the idea of a pastor?

What are your opinions?
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Old 02-23-2007, 10:21 AM
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Well, what bugs me is you hang out on an Apostolic forum - trying to peruade us we are all wrong. Just last night, you said those who disagree with extra-biblical issues should just leave our organization.

Coonskinner is right. You and others claim to be soooooo tolerant, but the proof is in the posts.
Where have I ever said you are wrong??? My point is that if you chafe and squirm under the authority that you voluntarily placed yourself under why spend so much energy that does you no good? Plus you sign something that you may not fully believe. (Notice I said 'may')

I NEVER claimed 'tolerance' and I'm not the typical ex-UPCer that left over facial hair, long skirts, etc. I left due to doctrinal issues.
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Old 02-23-2007, 10:21 AM
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Oh, I'm sure I've got the thirst for "getting them" all confused with a genuine love for lost souls. I've been so wrong.
You really do have meal wrong.

Do you thing when we have visitors that I preach on holiness issues and put them in hell?

Do you think that I blast them as soon as they walk in the doors?

I guess that's why we've been having visitors in nearly every service.
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Old 02-23-2007, 10:22 AM
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Aha!

How do you mean this Dave?
Most are dead!!!
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Old 02-23-2007, 10:22 AM
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How do you feel about the local church as we know it, and the idea of a pastor?

What are your opinions?

This isn't about me... and I'm at work, so I really can't get into this deep of a discussion at this time.

Hence the post and run I've been doing this morning.
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Old 02-23-2007, 10:22 AM
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Well, maybe that's why the rest of us stay around the org. We wanna be connected to our roots, and we've invested a lot.
PP,

Let's don't have a falling out.

But Dave is one of the good guys here.

Not Apostolic, but a valuable part of the board or any other he chooses to grace with his presence.
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Old 02-23-2007, 10:23 AM
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This isn't about me... and I'm at work, so I really can't get into this deep of a discussion at this time.

Hence the post and run I've been doing this morning.
When you get time I would like to hear about your beliefs, andf how they have evolved since I last had contact with you.
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