House Rep Scalise Shot

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Originalist

We live in a constitutional, representative republic. Thus far, the people as a while have not demanded their representatives create a single payer system. No State except Vermont has enacted such a system either, and the people there abandoned it.

For Single Payer to work several things have to be accomplished. There must be a tax increase. However, for the individual, the tax increase has to be less than the average cost of monthly premiums thereby allowing them to save money. Any taxation placed on businesses have to be less than what they typically pay to provide employee insurance and what they pay towards employee care. This requires the necessary population, income, and business demographics to be in place. The single payer legislation in Vermont was set aside because it wasn't time. The tax increase necessary would be greater than current expenditures. Vermont is a rather small state. It would be better if Vermont and several other states formed a regional single payer program.

States actively moving towards single payer are:

California
Nevada
Arizona

In the U.S. Congress H.R. 676 (Expanded and Improved Medicare for All Act) is gaining momentum as the problems with both Trumpcare and Obamacare are compared.

Single payer health insurance is a BIG move. It's perhaps the largest political vision of the century. It will be perhaps the most significant development in the United States.

So you cannot blame this on the GOP. We cannot let ourselves be blackmailed into passing laws that the people reject just because some nut demands that we do and threatens violence if we don't. That gunmen yesterday did not attack Republicans, he attacked the whole people of America and our constitution.

I agree. The problem is when legislation stands to physically harm millions of Americans. There will be backlash.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Aquila

States actively moving towards single payer are:

California
Nevada
Arizona

Oh really?

[Amanah]

Here’s a list of political hate-speech from the left; ignored or endorsed by prominent democrats, members of the media, or Hollywood celebrities.

• Hollywood Actor Mark Ruffalo calls on NBC News to "cease hiring white conservatives."
• "Knights for Socialism" group at a Florida University teaches students how to "fight the fascists."
• Anti-Trump "resistance" leaders say they want to "Make America Ungovernable," call for "direct action" tactics against Republicans.
• Kathy Griffin's photoshoot depicting President Trump's severed head.
• Charlie Sheen wishes death on Donald Trump, tweeting, “Dear God; Trump next, please! Trump next, please!" following the death of actress Carrie Fisher...
• President Trump murdered in musician Marilyn Manson's music video.
• Katie Tur insinuates Donald Trump will begin killing journalists on MSNBC, saying “Donald Trump has made no secret about going after journalists"
• Unhinged NYU professor calls on students to attack conservative speaker Gavin McInnes, calls his supporters "Nazis."
• Rachel Maddow says Donald Trump wants to murder journalists.
• Comedian Jim Carrey supports Kathy Griffin's photoshoot, says he dreams of killing President Trump.
• Madonna says she wants to "blow up the White House" during a speech.
• Black Lives Matter say they want to "fry cops like bacon" during a rally in Minnesota.
• President Obama urges liberal activists to, "Get in their faces."
• Actor Mickey Rourke goes on anti-Trump rant, says "*** him, *** the horse he rode in on, his wife's one of the biggest gold-diggers I know."
• Rapper Big Sean raps about murdering Donald Trump with an icepick...
• Late-Night host Stephen Colbert goes on anti-Trump tirade, calls him "Vladimir Putin's ***-holster."
• Comedian Bill Maher jokes about Trump family incest.
• Rapper Snoop Dogg stages phony execution of 'clown' Donald Trump.
• NBC and New York Times contributor Malcolm Nance calls on ISIS to suicide-bomb Trump-owned properties...
• NYC Theater group stages performance of 'Julius Caesar,' showing the savage stabbing-death of 'Donald Trump.'
• Protesters in Philadelphia chant "Kill Trump - Kill Pence" during May Day demonstrations...

http://www.hannity.com/articles/hanp...eral-15915576/

[Jito463]

Here's another one to add to the list, from a writer for HuffPo named Jesse Benn. This was posted AFTER the shooting of Scalise. This man should be brought up on charges of treason and inciting violence.

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/...enough-violent

For violent resistance to work it'd need to be organized. Individual acts can be understandable, but likely counterproductive/ineffective.

[n david]

Originally Posted by n david

I'd like you to post the source of the AHCA caps. I want you to show me where this alleged mother saw the insurance caps under AHCA.

You're posting the claim that the AHCA, which hasn't even been passed by Congress ... the AHCA, which will be modified over and over before being passed and sent to Trump to be signed into law ... you're claiming some mother you know says that the AHCA will cap her insurance within a couple months.

Let me say I'm VERY skeptical that this is true. Either the lady you claim to know is lying or she's being lied to or she doesn't exist. It shouldn't be hard to contact this lady and get her source to post it here.

By all means, please prove me wrong.

Still waiting for the source showing how this mom you claim to know will cap out on insurance for a healthcare plan which hasn't been drafted in the Senate, hasn't passed Congress and hasn't been signed into law by Trump!

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

These wealthy conservatives have no skin in the game. People like Ryan don't care that millions could lose their insurance under Trumpcare. Trump, Ryan, and the GOP in Congress are now the real death panel.

You are so one dimensional. You post things without even a care to ponder what you post. Wealthy conservatives? You mean Hillary and Bill are walking around in sack cloth and ashes? Bernie Sanders has to sell pencils in order to get his next meal? Michael Moore is sucking on his wallet? Arianna Huffington is wearing rags, and on food stamps? George Soros walking to work at a factory job? Listening to NPR is one thing, believing NPR is stupid.

Originally Posted by Aquila

I lost my mother from a treatable condition because she didn't have insurance back in 2007. I see it like this, when one sees these politicians laughing it up and acting like they are just having a lovely time, while a loved one suffers or dies because their policies denied essential coverage or insurance altogether... some folk are going to snap.

I'm sorry about your loss of a parent. Yet, I'm not sorry for what I'm about to post to you. You have issues, and you need to figure out what you are going to do about them. You need to find a pastor, because what you are currently involved in couldn't get a fly high. Using your deceased mother as a political prop is horrible behavior. Seriously Aquila you need to ponder this.

Originally Posted by Aquila

Certainly, they realize this. They might want to start wearing bullet proof vests.

If they don't hear the cry of the people... we have to realize that Bastille Day will be on the way. Conservatives talk tough, but they really don't have the guts to revolt. Liberals do.

This is unbelievable from a Christain. Yet, I have realized that what you are currently involved in doesn't require you to be one. Aquila it is you who talk tough. It is you who is the hero of everyone of your posts. It is funny how imbeciles spout off how they would storm the Bastille. When in reality they will be the first behind the couch. It is easy to sit in the comfort of your home posting away. Telling us how brave you are, how much of a SJW you are, how much you want to be George McGovern. But, the truth is that you wouldn't be the point man in any peasant uprising. You talk big, but the fact is you are fueled by wind power.

[n david]

Originally Posted by n david

Still waiting for the source showing how this mom you claim to know will cap out on insurance for a healthcare plan which hasn't been drafted in the Senate, hasn't passed Congress and hasn't been signed into law by Trump!

Bump

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by n david

Bump

Hey, n david?

You should of added something about Deuteronomy 22:5 in your post.

Aquila must of showed up three times a day to hit that thread. Since you posted the above he dissipated like morning fog.

[Jito463]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Hey, n david?

You should of added something about Deuteronomy 22:5 in your post.

Aquila must of showed up three times a day to hit that thread. Since you posted the above he dissipated like morning fog.

Much like when Aquila posted the 97% myth about the Gorebol Climate Scam, and I posted a refutation that completely demolished it. Not a peep from him on the subject. No admission that he was wrong, not even an acknowledgement of my post. Just silence.

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by Jito463

Much like when Aquila posted the 97% myth about the Gorebol Climate Scam, and I posted a refutation that completely demolished it. Not a peep from him on the subject. No admission that he was wrong, not even an acknowledgement of my post. Just silence.

And that is why I put him on ignore.
He will rarely acknowledge when he is wrong.
He will just disappear.
I even stalked him on other threads for a while in an effort to get him to address my rebuttals, but he ignored those posts, as well.
I have no time for those who engage in false debate.