I think that an interesting wrinkle is the new phenomenon of men wearing skirts. There are more and more websites and designers selling skirts and dresses to straight men and selling it as the next step in freedom. This is an excerpt from one website:
Freedom! Liberation! Equality! Sensibleness!
Campaign to abolish gender clothing-apartheid!
The rule that said that men should not wear skirts has got to be one of the daftest around, (see Misconceptions), made even more absurd now that its equivalent rule that women should not wear trousers has been quite sensibly abolished.
Obviously, rules telling you what you can't wear are bizarre oppression. Make that gender-discriminatory and you're talking serious gender apartheid. But add to that a curious asymmetry, making some people arbitrary second-class citizens, and the logical conclusion is that this is some kind of a joke rather than reality.
An early example of someone breaking the rules was Emma Snodgrass, who in Boston on 29th December 1852 was arrested for wearing trousers. Now let's see if the world is advancing, and losing its silly rules.
I guess one question that I have is whether people here are willing to accept this as just another development in our society and a reflection of the evolutionary nature of our culture. How do you feel about a man in a skirt, and if you are comfortable with women in pants, do you have any Biblical basis to be uncomfortable with a man in a skirt.
Here are a few pics just so you don't think that I'm talking about kilts and blowing it out of proportion.
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Because the simple fact is, a skirt is comfortable!
Nothing more, nothing less.
Perhaps more so for a man due to our anatomy.
In my case, and I can only speak for myself, I do NOT want to look like a woman,
any more than a woman in trousers wants to look like a man!
Therefore this site is intended to encourage and support those men out there who have the courage to wear whatever they like,........... much as the ladies do, and have done since the 1920's.
Throughout this site the word "Skirt" is used as a generic term,
so it includes any garment that only has ONE LEG!
(Something that skirts the body)
For instance,
Kilts, Lunghi,Sarong,Kikoi,Pareo,Sulu, Galabeya's or even Skirts
I am not intending to upset the Celts by including Kilts, but it keeps it simple.
Although in my humble opinion a kilt is the most uncomfortable of those listed due to the pleats, They may add to the aesthetics and cause a kilt to sway when you walk, but try sitting down!
For many men Kilts are the prefered option as they are traditional celtic masculine attire and worn by, Irish, Cornish, Scots, oh, and Americans getting in touch with their roots,
So no need to put on a deep voice and accentuate your masculinity as in a kilt it is never in doubt.
This site is NOT about crossdressing!
Not that I have anything against a person of either gender
who want to pass themselves off as the other, but that is not what this site is about.
This is simply a support site for men who feel comfortable in a "Skirt".
Ladies can wear mens Jeans, shirts, Sweaters etc, yet I have never heard them referred to as crossdressing.funny that, eh?
Do you think that they could be trying to get in touch with their masculine side?
It seems that the constraints placed on "acceptable" male attire are a bit unfair!
I could wear an earring, nipple ring and have rings in other parts of my anatomy that just doesn't bear thinking about!
I can wear all sorts of "Bling".
Neck chains or pendants, wrist chains and rings.
Given that I had some hair, I could have a pony tail, or hair like Francis Rossi
( Just wish I could play a guitar like him)
Any of these would be perceived as expressing my individuality, or at worst eccentricity.
Put on a skirt! Well, Have I "turned"?....
Am I wearing a Bra? My sexuality is called into question!
( Not that it's any of your ****** business, but I am:
Old and Straight with a face like a Prune).
I hate to admit this, but I remember the '70's.
Guy's then were seen in Kaftans etc, flared jeans and flowery shirts.
Sadly the era of the "male peacock" has gone!
All we have now is the "grey man".
In many parts of the world a loose skirt type garment
is normal male attire and the reason is mainly comfort!
There are the Fijians with the Sulu, Indians with the Lunghi,
The Egyptians with the Galabeya.
If you think in Anatomical terms, for men to have a centre seam is illogical,
why would you want to wear something that is trying to cut you in half?
We go on about healthy eating, preventing all sorts of things like High Cholesterol,
testicular cancer etc.
What about healthy clothing?
Now I wouldn't dare to claim that wearing a skirt will prevent testicular cancer,
but it's a bloody good excuse!
The feeling of comfort has to be tried to be believed.
As far as I know it is not illegal for men to wear skirts, providing a level of modesty is preserved,
Perhaps we are looking for acceptance from our fellow humans in the western world.
Speaking for myself, I have had all sorts of reactions from sly grins to wholehearted support.
So far, nobody has actually thrown anything at me.
So if you haven't tried one, before you call me names ,can I suggest you try it at least once,
I think you will be pleasantly surprised.
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Are you wanting a sex change and want to justify it?
Deut 22 - - women are to look like women, men like men.
I Corth 6:18 - - flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body.
I would think a sex change as in Thomas/Tracy would be sexual immorality.
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
That was seriously insulting.
I think you have a very hypocritical stance concerning Deut 22:5.
On the one hand you say it has nothing to do with britches, and on the other you say women are to look like women and men like men. Can you not see why the UPC has taken the stand it has concerning women wearing britches?
They just draw the line in a different place than you and, honestly, the more I think about it, the more I think it is wise.
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
I think we should go out of our way to be...um...genderly distinct. (I made that up.) ...whatever that means within a particular culture.
It is cultural, and a good example is Indian women with their sari/tunics and the pants that go underneath--they don't look masculine whatsoever. However, I think that jeans look really masculine, and so while I might wear pajama pants (okay, I DO), I also draw the line...somewhere.
That's the problem though...I really do think that churches and saints ought to be drawing some lines on an individual basis. (Yes, I know "saint" and "church" is contradictory on the singular vs. plural note)
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
The stance held by the manual is the one that's hypocritical ... in one breath they point to a scripture that states that there must be gender distinction in clothing ... yet we know that the garments worn essentially were the same ... except for fringes, colors, etc.
And now we have a similar situation today in which "britches" differ in style, fit and cut ...
Yet, we have a group that will not fellowship the Body ... or say that one is heaven-bound because of this issue.
1. PP, would you wear female pants ... why or why not ... ?
2. When you go shopping can you make a distinction as to men's pants and female pants ... why or why not?
The truth, dear Daniel, is that America culture is being redefined as a genderless mess.
Consider the word "metrosexual" and shows like Queer Eye for the Straight Guy. Is that really who we want defining the Church's look?
And, there are all sorts of other garments that were originally gender-specific, that have now become unisex. That doesn't make it right.
I see women wearing ties and suits.
Men (preachers even) who say they wear girdles and pink shirts and all sorts of other frilly stuff.
It's revolting, and it's no wonder our kids are confused about so many things.
I understand what you are saying, but 200 years ago men wore long white wigs and frilly blouses with short pants.
2000 years ago everyone wore robes.
Not so sure it's WHAT we wear, but how we wear it - know what I mean?
I understand that cultures change. I have no problem with that.
I am not advocating we go back to horses and buggies.
I'm just saying there seems to be a purposeful attempt to erase gender indentifiers, perhaps stemming from the feminist movement, that is making enroads in the church.
We would be wise to realize this, and react accordingly.
I understand that cultures change. I have no problem with that.
I am not advocating we go back to horses and buggies.
I'm just saying there seems to be a purposeful attempt to erase gender indentifiers, perhaps stemming from the feminist movement, that is making enroads in the church.
We would be wise to realize this, and react accordingly.
How do we react accordingly?
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The truth, dear Daniel, is that America culture is being redefined as a genderless mess.
Consider the word "metrosexual" and shows like Queer Eye for the Straight Guy. Is that really who we want defining the Church's look?
And, there are all sorts of other garments that were originally gender-specific, that have now become unisex. That doesn't make it right.
I see women wearing ties and suits.
Men (preachers even) who say they wear girdles and pink shirts and all sorts of other frilly stuff.
It's revolting, and it's no wonder our kids are confused about so many things.
I have to ask this. You really think men wearing pink shirts is wrong?
I do understand that the color pink is considered, by many, a woman's color but for a man to wear it is wrong? I don't think colors themselves are wrong. I think the IDEA in someones head that a specific color belongs on women or men is what is wrong. Now if heis wearing a pink ladies blouse that is wrong but a pink men's shirt is not wrong.
That is as absurd as the idea that a woman wearing red is wrong or if she wears open toed shoes is wrong.
Gender blending I think is not right. There should ALWAYS be a distinction between sexes. IF someone can not tell a man from a women there could be a problem. If the person in question looks like a women but has pants on you will hear no quibbles from me. There is a line of distinction that men should be masculine and women shouldn't be. Each person must judge for themselves what seem appropriate. NO WAY would I ever wear a skirt. There is no place for that for me. I would question someone mental stability if a man wore a skirt. But slacks for women are VERY acceptable becasue of the style and the way in which they are worn. ENOUGH SAID.
Oh Yeah, Pastor P, pink shirts-WRONG??? Whateva
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