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Old 07-17-2007, 03:28 PM
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Do you believe in modesty

To read some of the "arguments" (for lack of a better word and one that won't get me in trouble", one might be led to believe some where don't believe in modesty at all.

Should we dress and act modestly? And if so, how do you go about deciding what is modest and what is not?
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Old 07-17-2007, 03:32 PM
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To read some of the "arguments" (for lack of a better word and one that won't get me in trouble", one might be led to believe some where don't believe in modesty at all.

Should we dress and act modestly? And if so, how do you go about deciding what is modest and what is not?
I think the denominal world has a pretty good handle on modesty. They don't stigmatize normal behavior, and thus remove the adrenalin rush that comes with doing normal every day things in our Western culture.

What, does the church actually believe that by regulating morality they are keeping men from sin?

Don't think so.
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Old 07-17-2007, 03:38 PM
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I think the denominal world has a pretty good handle on modesty. They don't stigmatize normal behavior, and thus remove the adrenalin rush that comes with doing normal every day things in our Western culture.

What, does the church actually believe that by regulating morality they are keeping men from sin?

Don't think so.
Since I don't have a clue what you just wrote I am going to have to ask some questions.

What is denominal world? How do they have a handle on modesty and how do you know? What is normal behavior and is it biblically sanctioned? Fornication is normal behavior for some.

How does not stigmatizing normal behavior remove an adrenalin ruhs that comes with doing normal everyday things? What normal every day things usually generate an adrenalin rush in your estimation?

Do you or do you not believe in modesty? By your answer its' hard to tell, particularly the last one. That's like saying the church can't prevent sin by preaching against sin....
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Old 07-17-2007, 03:47 PM
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Since I don't have a clue what you just wrote I am going to have to ask some questions.

What is denominal world? How do they have a handle on modesty and how do you know? What is normal behavior and is it biblically sanctioned? Fornication is normal behavior for some.

How does not stigmatizing normal behavior remove an adrenalin ruhs that comes with doing normal everyday things? What normal every day things usually generate an adrenalin rush in your estimation?

Do you or do you not believe in modesty? By your answer its' hard to tell, particularly the last one. That's like saying the church can't prevent sin by preaching against sin....

Here ya go. Going to a movie. I have gone to movies with Apostolic people and they are so nervous, they are looking around, they feel like they are doing something adventerous full of danger, because if someone from the church would see them! Oh Indiana Jones look out!
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Old 07-17-2007, 03:51 PM
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Here ya go. Going to a movie. I have gone to movies with Apostolic people and they are so nervous, they are looking around, they feel like they are doing something adventerous full of danger, because if someone from the church would see them! Oh Indiana Jones look out!
OH, so you are not Apostolic? Im still not sure how that pertains to the topic of modesty or your adrenaline rush theory or even how that is normal behavior.
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Old 07-17-2007, 03:54 PM
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OH, so you are not Apostolic? Im still not sure how that pertains to the topic of modesty or your adrenaline rush theory or even how that is normal behavior.
Because of this stigma, our kids can't make the determination between what is sin and what is normal behavior. And I am not talking about your polarized statement that IMMORALITY to some is considered normal behavior in mainstream religion.
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Because of this stigma, our kids can't make the determination between what is sin and what is normal behavior. And I am not talking about your polarized statement that IMMORALITY to some is considered normal behavior in mainstream religion.
Because of the stigma (is that the right word?!?!) of being told not to go to movies they can't make the determination between what is sin and what is normal behavior?!?! And how does that pertain to modesty? BTW you only said "normal behavior" as I said before I did not have a clue what you were tryiing to say and needed to ask you some questions. Perhaps you can be clearer next time and less cryptic. How am I supposed to know what you meant by normal behavior? Was I supposed to read your mind?
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BTW do you or anyone else actually have something to say on THIS topic instead of trying to change it to something else?
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BTW do you or anyone else actually have something to say on THIS topic instead of trying to change it to something else?
Coming from you this statement is HILARIOUS!!!!
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Old 07-17-2007, 04:06 PM
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Coming from you this statement is HILARIOUS!!!!
See what I mean? The topic Daniel, Do you have anything productive to say about the topic or is this the best you can do? Seems par the course for you.
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