A Case for Modesty

deacon blues · #1 06-07-2007, 11:20 PM

I'm in Elizabethtown, KY tonight on my way to Ohio. Watching cable news in my hotel room. I saw footage of the poor young lady who was kidnapped and murdered in Bro. Riggens hometown of Olathe, KS. Very, very sad, very, very tragic.

In no way is this young lady's murder ever justified under any circumstances, but I could not help but notice what this young lady was wearing in the security video from the Target store where she was abducted. The despicable young man who has been arrested for her murder was said to be suspected as a stalker. There will be no way of knowing this perhaps, unless this murderer confesses and describes in detail his mental processes, but after seeing her in short shorts and a revealing tank top I wondered if he selected her from the crowd because of all of the flesh she was exposing.

Please do not read this the wrong way! There is no excusing the actions of this evil person! No one deserves such a tragic end to their lives. This young man was looking for a victim and found it in this innocent young lady. My thinking was had this young lady been dressed more modestly, would the perpetrator have passed on her for another young lady.

Its all pure speculation, no one can say for sure, but it made me think how important it is for ladies to remain modest. First and foremost because modesty is pleasing to God. Second, there are a lot of really sick individuals in this world, even in small town America, and women do not need to wear ANYTHING that may draw attention to themselves from ogling eyes. At best it encourages unscrupulous men to gaze and lust. At worst it may gain the attention of a perverse individual who has decided to cross the line from pornographic fantasies to acting out the warped images in their minds.

I appreciate my modest wife! I fully intend to instill modesty principles into the hearts of my sons and daughter! Thank God for being a part of a holiness movement that has always stood for prudence and discretion in our women!

Scott Hutchinson · #2 06-07-2007, 11:25 PM

While we might differ in how we draw our lines modesty is always the Bible order for Christian men and women.
If it ain't for sell don't advertise.

H2H · #3 06-07-2007, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by deacon blues

I'm in Elizabethtown, KY tonight on my way to Ohio. Watching cable news in my hotel room. I saw footage of the poor young lady who was kidnapped and murdered in Bro. Riggens hometown of Olathe, KS. Very, very sad, very, very tragic.

In no way is this young lady's murder ever justified under any circumstances, but I could not help but notice what this young lady was wearing in the security video from the Target store where she was abducted. The despicable young man who has been arrested for her murder was said to be suspected as a stalker. There will be no way of knowing this perhaps, unless this murderer confesses and describes in detail his mental processes, but after seeing her in short shorts and a revealing tank top I wondered if he selected her from the crowd because of all of the flesh she was exposing.

Please do not read this the wrong way! There is no excusing the actions of this evil person! No one deserves such a tragic end to their lives. This young man was looking for a victim and found it in this innocent young lady. My thinking was had this young lady been dressed more modestly, would the perpetrator have passed on her for another young lady.

Its all pure speculation, no one can say for sure, but it made me think how important it is for ladies to remain modest. First and foremost because modesty is pleasing to God. Second, there are a lot of really sick individuals in this world, even in small town America, and women do not need to wear ANYTHING that may draw attention to themselves from ogling eyes. At best it encourages unscrupulous men to gaze and lust. At worst it may gain the attention of a perverse individual who has decided to cross the line from pornographic fantasies to acting out the warped images in their minds.

I appreciate my modest wife! I fully intend to instill modesty principles into the hearts of my sons and daughter! Thank God for being a part of a holiness movement that has always stood for prudence and discretion in our women!

This thread is going to bite you hard!

SDG · #4 06-07-2007, 11:27 PM

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Its all pure speculation, no one can say for sure, but it made me think how important it is for ladies to remain modest.

Exactly what is ... speculation .... and I'm all for modesty.

#5 06-07-2007, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by deacon blues

I'm in Elizabethtown, KY tonight on my way to Ohio. Watching cable news in my hotel room. I saw footage of the poor young lady who was kidnapped and murdered in Bro. Riggens hometown of Olathe, KS. Very, very sad, very, very tragic.

In no way is this young lady's murder ever justified under any circumstances, but I could not help but notice what this young lady was wearing in the security video from the Target store where she was abducted. The despicable young man who has been arrested for her murder was said to be suspected as a stalker. There will be no way of knowing this perhaps, unless this murderer confesses and describes in detail his mental processes, but after seeing her in short shorts and a revealing tank top I wondered if he selected her from the crowd because of all of the flesh she was exposing.

Please do not read this the wrong way! There is no excusing the actions of this evil person! No one deserves such a tragic end to their lives. This young man was looking for a victim and found it in this innocent young lady. My thinking was had this young lady been dressed more modestly, would the perpetrator have passed on her for another young lady.

Its all pure speculation, no one can say for sure, but it made me think how important it is for ladies to remain modest. First and foremost because modesty is pleasing to God. Second, there are a lot of really sick individuals in this world, even in small town America, and women do not need to wear ANYTHING that may draw attention to themselves from ogling eyes. At best it encourages unscrupulous men to gaze and lust. At worst it may gain the attention of a perverse individual who has decided to cross the line from pornographic fantasies to acting out the warped images in their minds.

I appreciate my modest wife! I fully intend to instill modesty principles into the hearts of my sons and daughter! Thank God for being a part of a holiness movement that has always stood for prudence and discretion in our women!

I think the fact she was alone and young is what stood out about her. I know of a sister who's daughter was rape at 16, she was dress modest. This comes down to a sick mind, one who want to inflect pain, the victims for some reason caught their eye and stood out. This is a sad story indeed.

What we need to teach our daughter is this, never leave a shopping mall alone at night, go with a few girl friends or a guy friend, there is safety in numbers . Make sure your daughter understand they can ask for a male attendant or an officer working in a store or mall to see them out to their car day or night . I've done this many of times, they are always ready to help. Have their keys ready to unlock the door, don't park out in no where, don't park next to vans, park were it's well lighted up. Walk tall, look around be aware of their surroundings, make eye contact never look down keep head up. Make sure your daughters understand if they feel unsafe to call someone, even the police, whatever they do, don't leave the store alone, stay around people. If you feel your being followed in your car, drive straight to the police.

SDG · #6 06-07-2007, 11:38 PM

Did anyone catch DB was watching TV ... ????

deacon blues · #7 06-07-2007, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Exactly what is ... speculation .... and I'm all for modesty.

I'm specualting on what was going on in the mind of the murderer. Unless he gives a detailed account of how he went about selecting this young lady from any of the other potential victims he could've chosen to abduct, it guesswork that her attire had anything to do with it. The thought crossed my mind as I watched the newscast.

H2H · #8 06-07-2007, 11:44 PM

Right, DB is guilty of blaming the victim... he never watches TV, so he is ultra sensitive to skin and sees short sleeves and knees as an invitation for molestation and murder... That is the direction of this thread I fear.

deacon blues · #9 06-07-2007, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Did anyone catch DB was watching TV ... ????

I was hoping no one would be so sharp as to put two and two together. Thanks for exposing me, Dan! LOL!

deacon blues · #10 06-07-2007, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CupCake

I think the fact she was alone and young is what stood out about her. I know of a sister who's daughter was rape at 16, she was dress modest. This comes down to a sick mind, one who want to inflect pain, the victims for some reason caught their eye and stood out. This is a sad story indeed.

What we need to teach our daughter is this, never leave a shopping mall alone at night, go with a few girl friends or a guy friend, there is safety in numbers . Make sure your daughter understand they can ask for a male attendant or an officer working in a store or mall to see them out to their car day or night . I've done this many of times, they are always ready to help. Have their keys ready to unlock the door, don't park out in no where, don't park next to vans, park were it's well lighted up. Walk tall, look around be aware of their surroundings, make eye contact never look down keep head up. Make sure your daughters understand if they feel unsafe to call someone, even the police, whatever they do, don't leave the store alone, stay around people. If you feel your being followed in your car, drive straight to the police.

What is scary is that she was there at 7 pm in broad daylight running an errand. The security camera caught the murderer forcing her into her vehicle.

The advice you present here, however is good for all women to take note of.