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Old 09-20-2013, 07:26 AM
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Re: Strange dialog with a Trinitarian (L)

Some Trinitarians can be "Oneness" in their logic. For example, I was listening to a Trinitarian explain that the Father is God in transcendence, the Son (Logos) is God expressed within time and space, and that the Spirit is God's very own Spirit working in the spiritual plane. He went on to explain that God never changes and has always existed in this manner. Therefore, there are three distinct centers of consciousness. Each can technically be called a "person" with relation to distinction... yet they are also the same person with relation to being... because they are each the very same being revealed in three ways.

Thus according to Him... God is a single person... yet revealed in three distinct personas/persons that eternally emanate from His being in relation to time, space, and spirit.
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Some Trinitarians can be "Oneness" in their logic. For example, I was listening to a Trinitarian explain that the Father is God in transcendence, the Son (Logos) is God expressed within time and space, and that the Spirit is God's very own Spirit working in the spiritual plane. He went on to explain that God never changes and has always existed in this manner. Therefore, there are three distinct centers of consciousness. Each can technically be called a "person" with relation to distinction... yet they are also the same person with relation to being... because they are each the very same being revealed in three ways.

Thus according to Him... God is a single person... yet revealed in three distinct personas/persons that eternally emanate from His being in relation to time, space, and spirit.
about 20 years ago, I was listening to the Radio and I heard this guy going down a pretty solid Oneness doctrinal explination. I actually sat in my car and was late for a class listening to him. It was pretty much what is generally taught in most Oneness churches. When he got to the end he said something along the lines of "and that's the Trinity"!

LOL! I just about fell out right there. He was the pastor of the largest AOG church in Lake Charles La. and he is/was certainly Trinitarian but beyond a handfull of catch phrases, he wasnt far from what most Oneness preachers teach!


at the end of the day, it just almost boils down to how one baptizes and if one thinks baptism even matters.

For me, it matters. It is vastly more important that most folk think.

Now I will certainly sharpstick AFF Trinitarians with little poems and all that but seriously there are more Oneness Trinitarians than i can shake a stick at! LOL
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Some Trinitarians can be "Oneness" in their logic. For example, I was listening to a Trinitarian explain that the Father is God in transcendence, the Son (Logos) is God expressed within time and space, and that the Spirit is God's very own Spirit working in the spiritual plane. He went on to explain that God never changes and has always existed in this manner. Therefore, there are three distinct centers of consciousness. Each can technically be called a "person" with relation to distinction... yet they are also the same person with relation to being... because they are each the very same being revealed in three ways.

Thus according to Him... God is a single person... yet revealed in three distinct personas/persons that eternally emanate from His being in relation to time, space, and spirit.
Person in relation to GOD is not a biblical term.
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Person in relation to GOD is not a biblical term.
Actually it is -

Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; Heb 1:3

Of course, it speaks of Christ being the image of HIS person, and thus the term person (hypostasis) is used in the singular in regard to God, not the plural.

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Person in relation to GOD is not a biblical term.
True. But I think you get the point.
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My wifes Mom is Oneness and to this day I try to explain to her our AOG view on the Godhead and that we are oneness also, but she get so hungup by the word "Trinity" that no matter how simple I make it she just cannot get it...
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My wifes Mom is Oneness and to this day I try to explain to her our AOG view on the Godhead and that we are oneness also, but she get so hungup by the word "Trinity" that no matter how simple I make it she just cannot get it...
dude if you would just baptize right we wouldnt care! LOL!
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Seems like some have posted that they have, in fact, heard Trinnies say they believe in three Gods.
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