Here comes the lecture from you.
Let me tell you something. When people deliberately fail God, it reverberates for hundreds of miles around and does not stay in one little place. Is the entire body of Christ in Memphis? No, but what happens in Memphis affects those in NY, or CA. If you feel it is none of your business then you should stay out of it.
I seriously doubt that Christ was out to prove a 80/20 principle when He chose the 70 among the thousands. Christ looked for the right conditions in each of the men's hearts.
If you are going to teach 80/20 principles, then you are into extrabiblical curriculum. We are to teach Christ's principles.
So are you trying to equate yourself with Jesus so you think that you can dismiss the 80% in your church system and describe them with derogatory names?
That is not a Christ-like attitude.
Christ mainly rebuked the leadership of that day. The Pharisees and Saducees earned his rebukes, and rightly so.
Matthew 23:1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,
2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.
5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,
6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,
7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.
8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.
9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.
12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
13 ¶But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.
15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
16 Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!
17 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?
18 And, Whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing; but whosoever sweareth by the gift that is upon it, he is guilty.
19 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?
20 Whoso therefore shall swear by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things thereon.
21 And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein.
22 And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon.
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Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
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Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess. [standards?]
26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.
27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
And you do not tell me what my job is. Christ does. So don't make the mistake of thinking that you have that authority. You don't.
Let's be real here. The disciples many ministers
think that they make do not end up interacting with the multitudes. Let's take a look at the type of people Christ made for disciples.
Peter: He was a fisherman from Capernaum
Andrew: He was Peter's brother and fishing partner; John's gospel says that Andrew was first a disciple of John the Baptist.
James: He was son of Zebedee and a fisherman from Capernaum.
John: He was James's brother and partner in the family fishing business.
Philip: He was from Bethsaida, another town on the coast of the Sea of Galilee.
Bartholomew: Not much is known from the scriptures about him.
Matthew: He's called a toll collector in Matthew's gospel.
Thomas: Went down in history as 'doubting Thomas' because he did not believe Christ was risen.
James: This man, who was the son of Alphaeus, was called in later tradition "James the Less" — not to be confused with James the Great or James brother of Jesus (James was obviously a popular name at the time!).
Simon: He was called "the Cananean" (which means "zealous" or "jealous" in Aramaic)
Thaddeus: There's a bit of controversy when it comes to this 11th disciple. In Mark and Matthew, he's called Thaddeus. Luke, on the other hand, calls this man Jude, son of James.
Judas Iscariot: The betrayer of Christ.
Most of these men were not of great esteem at all. Fishermen, publican, a skeptic. Was Judas among the 'outstanding 20%' ? No. Jesus knew what was in Judas when he picked him to be his disciple. He knew that Judas was going to fulfill God's will for Christ to give his life for many. So that alone blows your theory out of the water.
There is not much difference between the leadership of that day and the leadership of today. Many of them (but not all) put themselves into a special class above the people. They sit on a seat which is on an elevated platform above the people. They demand a portion of their hard earned money. Around here, they have minister dinners, served to them by the saints, in private and only ministers are invited.
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whole 80/20 suggestion you make is faulty. I ended up calling it nonsense in my last post.
Peter said whosoever will...and to those a far off...not 20 percent. That means Jesus calls millions, but who can put a percentage on how many give their lives to God? And who can decide for another what God wants them to do for Him? Only God has that perogative.
No one is suggesting to make irrational rushes to judgement with the poor? You did. You call them trailer trash. It is this mindset that I take exception to. I wonder if you will cozy up to the man who comes into the sanctuary wearing his best Sunday clothing while you would try to hide the "trailer trash" somewhere.
Do not think that you had some sort of epiphany of a scientific observation. In 40 years I have not seen your 80/20 rule actually succeed in action. If a pastor actually managed to turn 20 percent of his congregation into 'disciples', they ended up being in an exclusive clique within the church system and won't get their spiritual hands dirty with the serfs that attend in the congregation.
Sorry. But that has been my experience in the organized church system.
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