Proof Of Soul Sleep

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Sorry Steve and Mike but Paul got THIS from THAT:

15: For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16: For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18: Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

Also if one would simply think about verse 18.

He does not comfort them by saying "your loved ones are now in Heaven rejoicing at the throne".

Nope. Not one word about it. The only hope or comfort he gives them about the DEAD are the words he uses in verses 15-18. Just like Yeshua said. He will come again and receive us to himself that we may be always with him.

Oh what a great proof text it would be if Paul had told this Church what you all believe! But alas all thats there is what HE WROTE. So instead we place this in the soul sleep category where it belongs.

No, Paul did not get this from that. You are holding to a shallow old tradition, bro., in all due respect.

the same word translated as MANSIONS is translated ABODE in the same chapter of John 14!

Joh 14:2 KJV+ In1722 my3450 Father's3962 house3614 are1526 many4183 mansions:3438 if it were not1490 so, I would have told2036, 302 you.5213 I go4198 to prepare2090 a place5117 for you.5213

Joh 14:23 KJV+ Jesus2424 answered611 and2532 said2036 unto him,846 If1437 a man5100 love25 me,3165 he will keep5083 my3450 words:3056 and2532 my3450 Father3962 will love25 him,846 and2532 we will come2064 unto4314 him,846 and2532 make4160 our abode3438 with3844 him.846

WE are the MANSIONS or ABODES... once IN CHRIST, the Father's House. Where Christ IS, not WILL BE, is the actual words.

Joh 14:3 KJV And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

Where was Christ? In the position of SONSHIP, housing the Father. He said WHERE I AM, before He ever left them!