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Old 10-25-2007, 04:06 AM
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When I saw that you were insisting my reasoning proposed TWO PERSONS in saying God did not die, but Jesus died, although you knew full well that I believe this GOD and MAN are not two persons, I refused to deal with all your questions, since you were not acknowledging how my reasoning concludes what I say it concludes. This is so similar to what you said about Iron Bladder and Strange. And you did what they did with me.

If the human nature died, and the PERSON of Christ was involved, making it so that the Person died, that STILL does not mean GOD died. I have been saying all along that the human nature is contrasted from the term "GOD" as much as the human nature is contrasted from the term "DIVINE NATURE". God refers solely to "divine nature". Since divine nature did not die, neither did God. And DIVINE NATURE involves the Person who was both God and man as well. So I will not say GOD died because divine nature cannot die. I can only say the PERSON who was God and man died. That means the person of God died ONLY THROUGH the humanity, but not through Deity, so we cannot say GOD died. The person of God experienced death, but not as GOD, only as MAN. Hence, God did not die. Why is that so hard to understand? That is why the bible never said GOD died.

I do not agree that the bible's lack of saying GOD DIED is similar to the lack of the bible directly saying "JESUS IS GOD," as you feel, when we both Know Jesus is God. The bible's lack of saying GOD DIED is for the reason that such a statement is incorrect and absurd, in my opinion, whereas it is not absurd nor incorrect to say Jesus is God.

So let's back up and have you first acknowledge that my reasoning shown here does NOT make two persons, for that was further back in our corresondence than the issue of me not acknowledging your thoughts. Becuase you did not acknowledge my view first, I refused to acknowledge your issues. We have to go back to where we got offtrack, which was your refusal to acknowledge how my reasoning concerning the thought GOD DID NOT DIE, all the while I proposed JESUS IS GOD, can be seen as valid if one realizes GOD only refers to deity and not to everything that the single PERSON, Jesus Christ, manifested as.
Mike my comments were not like this "You believe in two persons"...rather I said "IF"..get that..'IF'. And then I said IF this, then that. I never said YOU believe in two persons.

I also pointed out that a lot of OPs do believe in two persons.

So I did one of two things. Address a general issue among OPs and then made some points and explanations and rhetorical points based on an IF/THEN formula.
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