Some are not listening, brother. What they are speaking against is not what you are saying, but what some WANT you to be saying because they can shoot down their concept of what is wrong, but not what you or I are actually saying.
I caught Coksiw in a distinct example of NOT EVEN READING WHAT I SAID when this chat went on:
When people have been drilled into one form of belief that they are solely fighting, and they do not actually read what you are saying, they do not address your thoughts, but rather just that stuck-in-the-mind thought that no one here is actually proposing.
I distinctly said that bartering was a PART of their commerce, and later clarified that by saying the other part was CASH and MONEY, it was given a response as though I never said CASH was involved as well. And so Coksiw said,
"I showed you money was use a lot as well, so the comparison you are using is misleading.." NEVER did I EVER say MONEY was not involved, too.
Without people properly addressing your points, you cannot relate to them your thoughts.
One time one brother and I on this forum discussed the calendars of timelines for the years that comprise Daniel's 70 weeks on until the point when Jesus arrived in time. The brother mocked my timeline that I used and quoted it and said that it distinctly said something as ridiculous as it even shows Jesus born December 25. What he failed to notice was that in the ebook that I told him about that included the timeline I agreed with, the author INCLUDED the alternative timeline that this brother agreed with. And the actual one that included Dec. 25 as the birth day of Jesus was that which HE AGREED WITH! He thought it was mine, since he thought the entire book did not quote his as well as the one I agreed with. He failed to notice that HIS TIMELINE said that Jesus was born Dec, 25!
It was actually several DAYS, maybe an entire WEEK, that I repeated over and over again that it was the TIMELINE with which HE AGREED that he was citing, as quoted in the book as error. I saw he was not responding to my note, and then he started continuing his mockery of MY timeline, that was actually HIS, and FINALLY HE SAW WHAT I WAS TRYING TO TELL HIM! He was so thrilled that he thought he had me in a corner with some ridiculous timeline that said Jesus was born Dec 25, and he kept mocking me for it, that HE DID NOT REALIZE IT WAS HIS TIMELINE that he had been arguing with me was the correct one. Think of it!
But when he saw what I said and actually TOO TIME TO READ MY WORDS, he went silent for a week or so. (The chat should still be on this forum!) Then he backpeddled and boy (!), did I ever hold his feet to the fire for that one! Woohoo!
This is what is happening here with you from SOME, not ALL. But Coksiw, for sure. And yet these guys never responded to me with their exegesis of
1 Cor 9 when one of them said THEY WOULD! But the red herring mockery will continue while they ignore their flubs. Again, I am NOT speaking about all who disagree with us here. It's just two of them, and Coksiw is one. No offence intended.
So, you made your point, and I made mine. But, thankfully there are others reading that will greatly benefit these words!
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