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09-27-2010, 10:18 PM
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Jesus' Name Pentecostal
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Re: Joel Osteen Prays Through
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Called to Hibbard Memorial Baptist Church.
God was moving things out of the way. How good and how patient He is! About this time Hibbard Memorial Baptist Church here in Houston extended a call to me to be their pastor. I decided to accept. I also decided to set my face toward God to find the power. I said to myself, and to God,”The hour is too late. Hell is too horrible, sins are too black, heaven is too real, eternity too long, and time too short for me to fail you.” I preached to the church on the text, “I baptize you with water, but He shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and Fire.” My subject was in the form of a question: When did Jesus baptize you in the Holy Ghost and fire? If we know when we are baptized in water, we would certainly know when and if we had been baptized in FIRE. I confessed to them that I had not had this experience, but was setting my heart and soul toward God to have it.
I was alone in my office in downtown Houston. I read and studied day and night. Suddenly it came to me. I read of Moses, Elijah, Elisha, Jesus, the early church and disciples. I read carefully the commands and desires of our Lord Jesus Christ. I began to see that we are sent to help to face and help a darkened, hell bound, demon ridden world, but we were not to do it in our own power. It was God’s plan that HIs people have a supernatural ministry. It was and is His plan that the Power of God be for our day in this twentieth century. The supernatural was God’s plan to destroy the devil and set men free. Oh, I remember when it came to me and I knew it was true. I wept. I got in my car and drove 16 miles to my home. I shouted and cried all the way home. My God, it’s true! No wonder I have been confused and defeated. Praise the Lord! God has the best way.
God’s Power Comes Upon Him in His Office
I had never heard of a man by the name of William Branham. I had faintly heard of Oral Roberts and his work. I was ignorant of all this. I just simply tell you what God did to me. I was there in my office waiting and praying into the night. I never knew what a touch from God was. As I waited before God, I had my hands up --I wasn’t excited. I was just waiting and yearning. Directly there came into my hands a strange feeling, and it came down to the middle of my arms and began to surge! Like electricity, it was like a thousand --like ten thousand --then a million volts of electricity. It began to shake my hand, to pull my hands. I could hear, as it were, a zooming sound of the power. It pulled my hands over and held them there as though God took them in His. There came a voice in my soul that said, “Lay these hands on the sick and I will heal them.”
But I didn’t have the Baptism. I was scared even for God to touch me again. I went to a revival meeting at the First Baptist Church of Blytheville, Arkansas. While on the train, I sought God, and as I fasted and waited upon Him, this same power came into my hands. God would touch me, but I couldn’t get baptized in the Holy Ghost.
One morning I got up, and I said, “Well, goodbye.” My wife asked me, “Where are you going?” I said, “I don’t know, but I’m not coming back until I hear from heaven.” I didn’t expect to see her for a month. I went to downtown Houston and rented a hotel room where I shut myself up. I shut God in with me. I said, “Oh, God, Thou who didst save me and call me and Thou whose call is upon my soul, Thou knowest my heart. I want to be used. I want to serve you. You’ve been so good to me.” God showed me two things. He showed me an old school debt that I had somehow overlooked and didn’t feel like I ought to pay. I got up and wrote a check for $600.00 to pay it. I said, “Lord, that's settled.” Then the Lord showed me the spiritual pride.
He said, “Are you willing to be numbered among the despised? Those who are ostracized? Are you willing to lose the prestige of your denominational standing? Are you willing to be fired from your church and have your salary cut off? Are you willing to have every door shut against you and never be invited to preach in their churches? Are you willing to accept the ridicule and embarrassment?” To all these and many more questions, I said, “Lord, I am! I am! I am!”
He Receives The Baptism of The Holy Ghost
In an air-conditioned room, with my hands lifted up t heaven and my heart reaching up for my God, there came the molten lava of His love. It poured in like a stream from heaven and I was lifted up out of myself. I spoke in a language I could not understand for about two hours. My body poured out perspiration as though I was in a steam bath. The Baptism of Fire! Glory to God! The surge of His power and glory of His presence defies the mind of man to explain! but Hallelujah, He filled the temple!
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09-27-2010, 11:43 PM
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crakjak
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Re: Joel Osteen Prays Through
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Originally Posted by Sam
I'd much rather hear Joel's dad preach than to hear Joel,
but maybe that's an age thing.
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I understand, Sam.
However, I personally believe Joel has much more depth than many give him credit. I pray that he continues to grow into all that God can use him.
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09-27-2010, 11:48 PM
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Jesus' Name Pentecostal
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Re: Joel Osteen Prays Through
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Originally Posted by crakjak
I understand, Sam.
However, I personally believe Joel has much more depth than many give him credit. I pray that he continues to grow into all that God can use him.
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I'm not putting Joel down. I have read some of his father's books and used to see him on tv once in a while. I only read Joel Osteen's first book. Like I said, it's probably an age thing. I know people who just love Joel's writing and preaching.
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Apostolic in doctrine
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09-27-2010, 11:54 PM
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crakjak
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Re: Joel Osteen Prays Through
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Originally Posted by Sam
I'm not putting Joel down. I have read some of his father's books and used to see him on tv once in a while. I only read Joel Osteen's first book. Like I said, it's probably an age thing. I know people who just love Joel's writing and preaching.
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I don't listen to Joel, hardly ever, but the few times that I have, when I have attention to what he was saying, he actually is substantive.
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09-28-2010, 12:09 AM
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Strange in a Strange Land...
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Re: Joel Osteen Prays Through
I think that too many people like to tear into people that are different than them because it is easy to discount someone that you don't know. I like Joel, but I don't always listen/watch him. He has much more substance than what I think he gets credit for. I think that he has much more substance than many oneness speakers, IMO.
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09-28-2010, 12:35 AM
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Jesus' Name Pentecostal
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Re: Joel Osteen Prays Through
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... I like Joel, ... I think that he has much more substance than many oneness speakers, IMO.
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well, that's not saying much
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09-28-2010, 12:40 AM
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Strange in a Strange Land...
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Re: Joel Osteen Prays Through
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well, that's not saying much
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Maybe not. I wasn't trying to take a shot at OP preachers, but more trying to give more weight to Joel's teaching.
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