Ray Boltz????

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Originally Posted by Jekyll

I don't think anyone with half a brain cell considers the forum to be representative of the general Apostolic population.

I sincerely hope not. Actually I think not. I don't think the forum is representative of the Apostolic population at all.

lol

You see TR ... this is exactly the attitude that I mean ...

Some here are considered unApostolic for things "much less" .... than divorce.

Getting a divorce or even speaking about separating often carries with it a death sentence in many parts of Apostolica.

This dynamic is common in other types of insular groups like Hasidic Jews ... divorce is not a viable option.

Some would rather leave than receive a pharisaical flogging or downcast eyes.

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Take Lawson's COOLJC for example ... Divorce is not an option ....

A person raised in this group has two basic options if they got down the road of divorce ... backslide ... which they are conditioned to believe is what they have done if they do .... or find another group to fellowship with.

[Jekyll]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

You see TR ... this is exactly the attitude that I mean ...

Some here are considered unApostolic for things "much less" .... than divorce.

Getting a divorce or even speaking about separating often carries with it a death sentence in many parts of Apostolica.

This dynamic is common in other types of insular groups like Hasidic Jews ... divorce is not a viable option.

Some would rather leave than receive a pharisaical flogging or downcast eyes.

Okay, all knowing Kettle, which attitude are you erroneously attributing to my post this time?

Ironically, your disdain for Apostolics is painfully apparent and clearly stated in this post. Apostolics in general and across the board do not fit neatly into the box you have built here. Your little skinny paint brush is not as wide as you would suppose it to be.

You display your condescention of Apostolics as not being able to distinguish between motivations for divorce is insulting. Yeah, to you Apostolics are idiots or spiritual abusers who toss all divorcees into the same pot.

A death sentence you call it?? NOW who sounds bitter?

I'm sorry, I AGAIN forgot that all behaviors in the church conform to your experiences. If it's not coming out of your stack, it's not smoke, right?? Puleeeze

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Originally Posted by Jekyll

Okay, all knowing Kettle, which attitude are you erroneously attributing to my post this time?

Ironically, your disdain for Apostolics is painfully apparent and clearly stated in this post. Apostolics in general and across the board do not fit neatly into the box you have built here. Your little skinny paint brush is not as wide as you would suppose it to be.

You display your condescention of Apostolics as not being able to distinguish between motivations for divorce is insulting. Yeah, to you Apostolics are idiots or spiritual abusers who toss all divorcees into the same pot.

A death sentence you call it?? NOW who sounds bitter?

My brush has carefully used words like some, many, often ... knowing that some are challenged in the area of literacy.

Your quote saying that anyone with half a brain knows that this group does not represent Apostolica stands on its own, Jekyll.

Want to see ...????

[Jekyll]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

My brush has carefully used words like some, many, often ... knowing that some are challenged in the area of literacy.

Your quote saying that anyone with half a brain knows that this group does not represent Apostolica stands on its own, Jekyll.

Want to see ...????

Now you are into building scarecrows, I see.

You expect that a poll in a forum is objective...lol gotta hand it to ya, you are a master of slant.

And, for those without reading comprehension problems and for others who do not intentionally mischaracterize others' posts, I did not say group which is personal, I said forum which is an institution. Nor did I say Apostolica which is some word you made up trying to peg Apostolic beliefs as myths, but I said Apostolics who are real people.

Are you ready for this?? I said that an institution does not represent as a whole SOME of the individuals who partake of the institution.

There ya go, in a nutshell. Jiggle away, jello man.

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Something wrong with American churches

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Jekyll

Now you are into building scarecrows, I see.

You expect that a poll in a forum is objective...lol gotta hand it to ya, you are a master of slant.

And, for those without reading comprehension problems and for others who do not intentionally mischaracterize others' posts, I did not say group which is personal, I said forum which is an institution. Nor did I say Apostolica which is some word you made up trying to peg Apostolic beliefs as myths, but I said Apostolics who are real people.

Are you ready for this?? I said that an institution does not represent as a whole SOME of the individuals who partake of the institution.

There ya go, in a nutshell. Jiggle away, jello man.

Actually...I think I was the first one who used the word Apostolica...I think I may have invented it...actually. I...didn't mean for it to peg Apostolic beliefs as myths, I coined it...as something that applies across the board universally to Apostolic people. Apostolica is people, not an abstract notion.

I am honestly honored that Dan would use a word I invented.

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Newsflash... The divorce rate will always be 50%. Only two legal options to end marriage. Divorce/Anullment and Death...

Originally Posted by TRFrance

I'm sorry, but I don't believe this at all.

The national divorce rate is close to 50%...

Where are you getting this idea from... that the divorce rate among the [Jesus name baptized/ Spirit-filled] members of God's church is as high as it is outside of the church? ...or even close to being as high?

I don't think there are any statistics at all to support this. If you have such statistics, I'd certainly be interested in seeing them.

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I thought apostolica was in honor of Dan's last name.

Originally Posted by Carpenter

Actually...I think I was the first one who used the word Apostolica...I think I may have invented it...actually. I...didn't mean for it to peg Apostolic beliefs as myths, I coined it...as something that applies across the board universally to Apostolic people. Apostolica is people, not an abstract notion.

I am honestly honored that Dan would use a word I invented.

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Originally Posted by Carpenter

Actually...I think I was the first one who used the word Apostolica...I think I may have invented it...actually. I...didn't mean for it to peg Apostolic beliefs as myths, I coined it...as something that applies across the board universally to Apostolic people. Apostolica is people, not an abstract notion.

I am honestly honored that Dan would use a word I invented.

I feel the spirit of Al Gore up in this thread .....