Do you consider a fundamentalist, out of touch? - Page 6

#51 07-22-2008, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

When did your wife stop preaching to men? As I gather you are implicating these photos are ancient.

their at least a year old... we have held to this understanding for a little over a year now

#52 07-22-2008, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Pro31:28

I feel like I need to step in here, I am completely submitted to my Husband. He does not rule over me, he holds my hand and we walk together through life. I have never ASKED to preach anywhere, I have only been invited. I have written a little bit, and apparently my stories have touched lives, no one seems to mind that.
I was told by a former pastor and comfirmed by my own husband that God had put a call to preach on my life. I do not feel a call to pastor, but I would also never say that a woman can't do that.
I have looked at your wife's myspace page and she seems to be a very beautiful woman with many, many talents. I pray that you give her the freedom in her submission to be all that God wants her to be.

Sister, blessings to you and your walk with God.... I would love to read your writings.. I am a huge reader... my wife ministers weekly to very large ladies groups throughout the country.. she writes,, she records gospel music albums... she simply chooses to stand in the place God has positioned her and that is not in a ministry to the men of God.. she and I both believe that a lady's calling is to other ladies.....

SDG · #53 07-22-2008, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

Here is my question..... If someone like myself is a Fundametalist.. and what I mean by that is, we take a very literal interpretation of Gods Word.. we don't do well with "We'll it really means this or that or in the original it doesn't mean that.. we find safety in taking as much of the Word at face value as possible... and if by chance we have it wrong.. we feel facing God without Greek or Hebrew knowledge would not be counted against us.....

Rather than try to find ways "Around" the Word... I am one who feels safe in reading the WORD and living it exactly as I read it... I am not condoning ignorance.. education is something I preach and believe in vehemntly.. but sometimes I do wonder if "much learning has not made us mad."

Now, my question for this board.... why is it that if someone like me who is very fundamental is so reviled? I realize my opinions are contrary to the mainstream but is was not so just years ago with my forefather.....

Had I made these statements just 30 years ago

A woman should not preach
Men should not remarry if they are divorced
Women should not cut their hair

my statements would have been in accordance with the times... but of course now in this age those statements are considered mean and unmerciful[/list]

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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

If it's not in the WORD, I try to leave it alone.... I do not preach against a woman wearing pants either... as I dont have NT scripture... I only have the hair issue that I am bound to preach because of its NT support.. I dont preach on sleeves nor moderation in jewels..... I try to speak where the Bible Speaks and be silent where it is silent...

I wear shorts to swim in... we are not legalist.... but there are few areas where the Word is loud and clear

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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

Daniel,, I am not a CON in many areas.. I am fundamental in only the things I can see in the scriptures.. I am not a clothesline preacher except for hair.. its in the NT...

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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

Are you kidding? I would never touch on those issues,, plastic surgery and Botox.. who has time to preach against that? There are plenty of people who cut their hair in my church, I am not their Lord

Also, I have never preached against a woman trimming her dead ends or even layering her hair.... but I do not believe a woman shut cut the length of her hair.. it should be worn as long as it can possibly grow.... but we are no dogmatic about it..

You do believe a woman can cut their hair ... then.

#54 07-22-2008, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Some believe these are modesty issues ... and we have to agree modesty is biblical.

You should know,,, you have plenty of pics on your mysapce brother.. are you just picking a fight? and the whole time your lady is in pants and your in shorts?

Come on,, no need for more between us... please let the Spirit of my original post be heard without your dragging us into uncessary rambling...

Trust me.. horseback riding last week in Key Largo... modest pants were much more called for than a dress

#55 07-22-2008, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

You do believe a woman can cut their hair ... then.

She can maintain her hair.. keep it healthy,, keep it beautiful... but she should not cut the length of her hair... no sir

SDG · #56 07-22-2008, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

You should know,,, you have plenty of pics on your mysapce brother.. are you just picking a fight? and the whole time your lady is in pants and your in shorts?

Come on,, no need for more between us... please let the Spirit of my original post be heard without your dragging us into uncessary rambling...

Trust me.. horseback riding last week in Key Largo... modest pants were much more called for than a dress

My Myspace .... http://www.myspace.com/danielalicea

No surprises.

Baron1710 · #57 07-22-2008, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

Baron.. it is not chauvinism.. whether you can comprehend this or not.. it is an innate desire to be pleasing and faithful to the order of God

You mean the God who set a female judge over Israel? Or the God who apointed Priscilla along with her husband to teach Apollos? Or the God who appointed a prophetess? That God?

SDG · #58 07-22-2008, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

She can maintain her hair.. keep it healthy,, keep it beautiful... but she should not cut the length of her hair... no sir

You keep on saying cut the length of her hair ..but allow for trimming and layering.

You're parsing words again.

If this is being a fundamentalist then the answer to your thread question is a resounding ....

yes.

pelathais · #59 07-22-2008, 04:17 PM

I would say yes, a Fundamentalist is "out of touch..." however the 3 issues that you raise are not traditionally part of the "Fundamentalist" tag. There are many sincere Fundamentalists who don't hold to some or all of the three and they will debate those topics in a lively manner.

#60 07-22-2008, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

My Myspace .... http://www.myspace.com/danielalicea

No surprises.

Wow,, you've cleaned it up I see.. good for you