Polygamy & Apostolics

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Brett Prince

I see...

Bro. Prince,

You might be interested to know this but I work for New Mexico and authorize treatment foster care for children and adolescents in your state. New Mexixo has the highest percentage of foster chiildren in the United States. They say that the breakdown of stable homes in NM is phenomenal.

Just FYI.:sshhh

Rhoni

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by pelathais

Polygamy is just a part of the human condition. It existed once and was prevalent- probably out of a survival need in distant antiquity.

You will find a hankering for it in every group of humans. And because the "need" for it (whatever that need may have truly been) has long since been satisfied, most people are appalled by the practice in modern times; especially when you see how abusive its implementation ends up being. Just read some of the Mormon accounts and you see that it’s detrimental to society.

As far as "Apostolics" practicing polygamy, I think what isolated cases you might find are of individuals who are behaving in other sociopathic ways - isolation from church and community, disregard for other civil laws and stretching the Scriptures to justify about any other lust and whimsy.

Could be that the "angenda" you fear in this thread (if there is one) was instigated by some other authoritarian abuse. The scars of that abuse could now be generalizing other sins and lumping everything together that is "bad" or that triggers memories of a bad experience. I dunno, just thinking about what triggers me sometimes, maybe.

I have no clue who you are but you have a head full of sense.

Blessings, Rhoni

[Dedicated Mind]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

sounds like you have some real issues with apostolics, with religion or with men in general. What is your ideal role for women in their relationships with men and their role in religion?

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[Brett Prince]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

Bro. Prince,

You might be interested to know this but I work for New Mexico and authorize treatment foster care for children and adolescents in your state. New Mexixo has the highest percentage of foster chiildren in the United States. They say that the breakdown of stable homes in NM is phenomenal.

Just FYI.:sshhh

Rhoni

Rhoni, FYI, you are talking to somebody who has ten years of experience with therapeutic and treatment foster care for children and adolescents in my state. The breakdowns of stable homes in NM is absolutely phenomenal--and I have served to remedy that. Not by marrying more than one wife, but by both serving as a parent, but also working in a domestic violence shelter and teaching both intervention classes but parenting classes to parents under accusation or with open cases with our local CYFD office.

I don't need to be lectured about the problems in our state. I have served to help remedy them. I am but one, and I cannot do everything--but I could do something, so I did it. Thanks.

[Brett Prince]

In conclusion, how about blistering other dolts through harmful inferences so intentionally shameful.

The wise will read and understand the truth.

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

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If you are bumping for me, I will tell you exactly what I think as an answer to this your question:

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind
sounds like you have some real issues with apostolics, with religion or with men in general. What is your ideal role for women in their relationships with men and their role in religion?

Let me answer in the order you have asked:
1. Do I have real issues with Apostolics? No I love Apostolics.
2. Do I have issues with religion? Absolutely. Religion is a set of man-made rules and traditions, for the most part. I prefer RELATIONSHIP with Christ more than religious dogma and duty.
3. Do I have issues with men? I have a few, but I have a few issues with women too.
4. What is my ideal role in relationship with men? Men are supposed to examples of spiritual authority God's way. They should be lovers of wife and children, providers, and protectors as they serve their God. I have not ever had this example, not in a father, or a husband. I am happy to say that I have had examples in Pastors and male friends to teach me the proper/healthy/BIblical way. And I am grateful.
5. What do I feel are men's role in religion? They made it so they can deal with it.

Blessings, Rhoni

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Brett Prince

Rhoni, FYI, you are talking to somebody who has ten years of experience with therapeutic and treatment foster care for children and adolescents in my state. The breakdowns of stable homes in NM is absolutely phenomenal--and I have served to remedy that. Not by marrying more than one wife, but by both serving as a parent, but also working in a domestic violence shelter and teaching both intervention classes but parenting classes to parents under accusation or with open cases with our local CYFD office.

I don't need to be lectured about the problems in our state. I have served to help remedy them. I am but one, and I cannot do everything--but I could do something, so I did it. Thanks.

So, how about taking my hand and letting me help instead of cutting me down and making false accusations about me. The only thing I am to be accused of is wanting so much to help that I hurt inside. I do all I can do whenever the opportunity presents itself. I am a marriage and family therapist because I believe in the institution of marriage and the necessity of family God's way to make a difference in our world.

I hurt every day I live because of failing at providing a stable marriage for my children and an example of Biblical hierarchy. Because of my failure [I had no example] I hope to teach/counsel/and example the few years I have left on this earth of doing it right. If only through my example of how not to do it.

Sincerely, Rhoni

[Sister Alvear]

Hey, my friend, Rhoni
I am reading these posts...Hope all is well with you. Are you close to Mesquite?

[Sister Alvear]

Rhoni, many times our good intentions are misread, especially on the internet.

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Hey, my friend, Rhoni
I am reading these posts...Hope all is well with you. Are you close to Mesquite?

Dear Sis. Alvear,

Yes, I am alright but pretty tired that is why I sound frazzled around the edges. I live 10 miles from Mesquite. I'll be in service at Peace Church in the morning...will you be there also?

Blessings, Rhoni