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View Poll Results: Do you support a draft?
Yes I support it 12 26.67%
No, I don't support it 30 66.67%
Im sitting on the fence 3 6.67%
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Old 08-15-2007, 09:02 AM
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NO! We already get in lazy-feel-entitled-whiny-baby-have-no-sense-of-respect-or-responsibility-or-discipline (etc) "soldiers" as it is. Can you imagine what a draft would bring in???

Don't get me wrong, we get good ones in too, but the numbers of soldiers I describe above are rising, and gets me to where I don't have anything to do with my "military" life anymore.
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Check out post 28.
You are right. So far the scripture tally is:

1. The Bible in favor of Christians fighting in wars = None
2. The Bible in favor of Christians killing their enemy = None
3. The Bible against Christians fighting in war = LOTS
4. The Bible against Christians killing their enemy = LOTS

So if we speak were the Bible speaks, what is this saying? oloroid
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You are right. So far the scripture tally is:

1. The Bible in favor of Christians fighting in wars = None
2. The Bible in favor of Christians killing their enemy = None
3. The Bible against Christians fighting in war = LOTS
4. The Bible against Christians killing their enemy = LOTS

So if we speak were the Bible speaks, what is this saying? oloroid
When they sing onward Christian soldiers they don't mean carrying a weapon.


2Co 10:3-4 "For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh: (For the weapons of our warfare are NOT CARNAL, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds; )"

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"Nikita Khruschev said, "the living will envy the dead," why are so many people bent on surviving a nuclear war?
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Luk 3:14

"And the soldiers likewise demanded of him, saying, And what shall we do? And he said unto them, DO VIOLENCE TO NO MAN, neither accuse any falsely; and be content with your wages."
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Just a thought and I'm working by memory but doesn't the UPC manual say that members are not to be a part of the military that fights the enemy. They can work support but are to be C.O.'s. (Objectors) Or has that part been taken out? In this war that would preclude even going overseas.
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The ironic thing is I NEVER EVER hear any UPC preacher, liberal or Conservative preach this part of the AOF
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The ironic thing is I NEVER EVER hear any UPC preacher, liberal or Conservative preach this part of the AOF
A few yrs ago there was an article on 90&9.. I don't recall the title, something like "Pacifists to Dogs of War" LoL
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Found it..

From Pentecostal Pacifists to Dogs of War
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"Christians should defy definition outside of the desire to be like Christ."

~Marcus Trammell

Very good article. Words that should be considered.

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