Texas Tornado Over Pastor with TV

[Nahum]

I like Piggy! He's got the dirt on everyone.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Originally Posted by Sherri

I just have one thing to say.....I'm glad we removed ourselves when we did in 1991. We had heard rumors that they were "coming after us". I'm so thankful it didn't come down to that, and it was very peaceful. We still remain friends with many of the UPC guys here, or at least friendly acquaintances. There were no hard feelings.

If I was in the org. and felt a need to leave ,I'd do so quietly and peaceable too.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Pig Pen

Oh my word! His integrity and livelihood on the line? Over disaffiliation?

Come on Daniel. If you think every detail is absolutely correct as posted here you need to take off the aluminum hat. The man's integrity was not questioned nor his job threatened. At least not where anyone can prove it.

Lest we forget, this seemingly all came about because the man wanted to do something in violation of a guideline.

And yes, I still think the scheduling was inconsiderate. Daniel, if the scheduling tables were turned you'd be singing a different tune I think.

Are you related to Baghdad Bob??? .... the former spokesperson for Hussein's toppled Iraqi regime ...

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

I like Piggy! He's got the dirt on everyone.

LOL! I have dirt on no one but myself. All I am doing is stating opinions like everyone else.

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Are you related to Baghdad Bob??? .... the spokesperson for Hussein's Iraqi regime ...

Well, it took you 3 or 4 posts but you finally managed to post in your typical style.

I'm out. Don't have time for your fololishness like others here who put up with it.

[SDG]

Thank you to to the Minister of MisInformation ...

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Pig Pen

Oh my word! His integrity and livelihood on the line? Over disaffiliation?

Come on Daniel. If you think every detail is absolutely correct as posted here you need to take off the aluminum hat. The man's integrity was not questioned nor his job threatened. At least not where anyone can prove it.

Lest we forget, this seemingly all came about because the man wanted to do something in violation of a guideline.

And yes, I still think the scheduling was inconsiderate. Daniel, if the scheduling tables were turned you'd be singing a different tune I think.

Now Piggy,
you are being a wee bit disingenuous here. Are you telling me the church and pastor had plans to disaffiliate before the DS stepped in with the tv issue?

Get real, the decision to disaffiliate was a RESPONSE to pressure brought on by outside authority. Now we can argue all day about tv and how horrible it is. I agree the man shouldn't have had one. But to say that there was no pressure on the pastor is ridiculous and a horrible attempt to paint the Pig Pen.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Pig Pen

LOL! I have dirt on no one but myself. All I am doing is stating opinions like everyone else.

That's cool. Just remember everyone has them and....

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Now Piggy,
you are being a wee bit disingenuous here. Are you telling me the church and pastor had plans to disaffiliate before the DS stepped in with the tv issue?

Get real, the decision to disaffiliate was a RESPONSE to pressure brought on by outside authority. Now we can argue all day about tv and how horrible it is. I agree the man shouldn't have had one. But to say that there was no pressure on the pastor is ridiculous and a horrible attempt to paint the Pig Pen.

Oh c'mon PP ... this was all on Liles ... he took the DS out his way ... so he could disaffiliate ....

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Pig Pen

Oh my word! His integrity and livelihood on the line? Over disaffiliation?

Come on Daniel. If you think every detail is absolutely correct as posted here you need to take off the aluminum hat. The man's integrity was not questioned nor his job threatened. At least not where anyone can prove it.

Lest we forget, this seemingly all came about because the man wanted to do something in violation of a guideline.

And yes, I still think the scheduling was inconsiderate. Daniel, if the scheduling tables were turned you'd be singing a different tune I think.

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Now Piggy,
you are being a wee bit disingenuous here. Are you telling me the church and pastor had plans to disaffiliate before the DS stepped in with the tv issue?

Get real, the decision to disaffiliate was a RESPONSE to pressure brought on by outside authority. Now we can argue all day about tv and how horrible it is. I agree the man shouldn't have had one. But to say that there was no pressure on the pastor is ridiculous and a horrible attempt to paint the Pig Pen.

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Oh c'mon PP ... this was all on Liles ... he took the DS out his way ... so he could disaffiliate ....

I don't have a problem with spin when we are all debating, but this is not a debate. I loathe it when folks spin situations to protect their holy grails and golden calfs.

The idea that there was no intimidation is silly.