Texas Tornado Over Pastor with TV

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Are you serious ... you put the man's integrity on the line and his livelihood and you're worried about scheduling ...

Hilarious.

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

What is your definition of sizable?

More than 300-400. At least in Texas.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Sherri

I may be simple here, but why is this a big deal if the pastor is going to remain UPC? I thought most churches themselves weren't affilliated anyway.

Originally Posted by Pig Pen

It's not.

They aren't.

It is a big deal when a church that had no intention of disaffiliating has their pastor threatened. And when that threat to remove him ends in a disaffiliation of the entire local assembly instead of one minister.

I wonder if we will still count them as "adherents"? You know, to inflate our worldwide growth totals?

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Pig Pen

More than 300-400. At least in Texas.

300-400 is a good sized church ANYWHERE!

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Are you serious ... you put the man's integrity on the line and his livelihood and you're worried about scheduling ...

Oh my word! His integrity and livelihood on the line? Over disaffiliation?

Come on Daniel. If you think every detail is absolutely correct as posted here you need to take off the aluminum hat. The man's integrity was not questioned nor his job threatened. At least not where anyone can prove it.

Lest we forget, this seemingly all came about because the man wanted to do something in violation of a guideline.

And yes, I still think the scheduling was inconsiderate. Daniel, if the scheduling tables were turned you'd be singing a different tune I think.

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

It is a big deal when a church that had no intention of disaffiliating has their pastor threatened. And when that threat to remove him ends in a disaffiliation of the entire local assembly instead of one minister.

I wonder if we will still count them as "adherents"? You know, to inflate our worldwide growth totals?

There is that word "threatened" again. How is asking a man to comply with agree upon guidelines a "threat?"

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

It is a big deal when a church that had no intention of disaffiliating has their pastor threatened. And when that threat to remove him ends in a disaffiliation of the entire local assembly instead of one minister.

I wonder if we will still count them as "adherents"? You know, to inflate our worldwide growth totals?

If the man continues to hold his license then indeed they would probably be counted as adherents. Been that way for years.

[Sherri]

I just have one thing to say.....I'm glad we removed ourselves when we did in 1991. We had heard rumors that they were "coming after us". I'm so thankful it didn't come down to that, and it was very peaceful. We still remain friends with many of the UPC guys here, or at least friendly acquaintances. There were no hard feelings.

[Scott Hutchinson]

I guess I'm simple minded but if one signs an agreement shouldn't they abide by it ?

[secretplace]

Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind

Rhoni, I have been in a UPC home since I left high school in 1981. I have never owned a TV, and never had one in my home. In fact after my Father died, my Grandmother would not stay with me over TV.

I cannot say I ever miss it either from the last 20 mins I did watch at my Mom's a few years ago. Disgusting to think someone would sign an AS and then openly lie like this. Be a man, take a stand and simply turn in your card if you have to have this junk in your home.

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