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12-02-2014, 08:03 PM
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Would you stay in a church if...
you did not believe 100% of what is being taught is truth?
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12-02-2014, 08:07 PM
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Re: Would you stay in a church if...
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you did not believe 100% of what is being taught is truth?
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Maybe, I've come to realize that absolute truth is not as important as I once thought and that's mostly because there's truth to be found in most anything.
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12-02-2014, 08:23 PM
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Re: Would you stay in a church if...
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Maybe, I've come to realize that absolute truth is not as important as I once thought and that's mostly because there's truth to be found in most anything.
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So you could go to a church and be perfectly fine with only saying AMEN 80% of the time?
If so, that's interesting.
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Philippians 2:12 - ...Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling
Ephesians 4:5 - One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism
1 Corinthians 1:10 - Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
Ephesians 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith ...
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12-02-2014, 08:54 PM
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Re: Would you stay in a church if...
We are instructed to maintain the unity of the Spirit until we come to the unity of the faith. Therefore there are some things which come over a pulpit that can be put on the back burner so to say.
Also, unless one claims to have perfect knowledge of all things one has to admit one is still learning, and therefore a disagreement may be caused by one's own error rather than the church's.
Can two walk together except they be agreed? Yes, in fact, but only so far as they are in agreement.
On a practical basis, I would say fundamental doctrines are essential, such as the unity of God, the Lordship of Christ, repentance and faith, baptism, the Holy Ghost, the reality of healing, resurrection and eternal judgment. Other issues like the structure, purpose, and function of the church, the proper form and substance of the liturgy (the work of the assembled saints aka the "service"), the issue of headcoverings, prophecy, etc etc are things that each individual must decide for themselves after MUCH prayer and study, as to whether or not those will be determiners of fellowship.
For me, I could not be a regular member of a non Holy Ghost church, a trinity or two-ness or "Jesus is not God" church, or one where testifying and Spirit filled meetings are not allowed, or one that was all about money and entertainment, or a miniature popedom where the pastor and his immediate family run EVERYTHING and everyone else is just a resource for them... or one where clucking and barking are all the rage.
Oh and if the women have big blue hair tons of makeup and ten inch fake eyelashes...
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12-02-2014, 09:17 PM
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Re: Would you stay in a church if...
I don't agree with everything about the church I go to yet I still go there because it is the closest to the truth that I can find.
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12-02-2014, 09:34 PM
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Re: Would you stay in a church if...
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you did not believe 100% of what is being taught is truth?
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Yes, so long as the cardinal doctrines of Hebrews 6 were preached correctly.
Hebrews 6:1-2 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, (2) Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
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12-02-2014, 11:47 PM
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Re: Would you stay in a church if...
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I don't agree with everything about the church I go to yet I still go there because it is the closest to the truth that I can find.
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Same here.
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12-03-2014, 12:22 AM
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Re: Would you stay in a church if...
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So you could go to a church and be perfectly fine with only saying AMEN 80% of the time?
If so, that's interesting.
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Yes. I'd even go as far to say that as long as I could say Amen 1% of the time I'd be okay with it.
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12-03-2014, 03:29 AM
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Re: Would you stay in a church if...
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So you could go to a church and be perfectly fine with only saying AMEN 80% of the time?
If so, that's interesting.
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I don't say "Amen" or anything else during the preaching..Im trying to listen and I wish others would do the same
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12-03-2014, 04:44 AM
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Re: Would you stay in a church if...
Is it possible to find someone that you agree with 100% with all the time?
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