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Originally Posted by chaotic_resolve
DA - I agree. If the internet had been around when the television prohibition was passed, it too would have been banned along with television.
From what I understand something already happened . . . the minister in question removed the offending comments from off the website. Not sure if he got rid of his television or handed in his resignation though.
Coonskinner . . . You never answered a post of mine from way back in the early pages of this thread.
You know that recently there was a certain DS in a district not far from your own who wrote a grandios story about a Jewish Revival. It kept getting bigger and bigger. Then people started asking questions because of contradictions. It ended up Bishop Haney had to send a committee to investigate this minister's claims and found out he was flat out LYING.
The committee caught this minister in several lies during their investigation, yet he STILL, to this day, is adamant and refuses to admit any wrongdoing; refuses to apologize for the lies he's been caught in; has rebelled against the leadership at HQ; is unrepentant and refuses any offers of help given him.
Bishop Haney even recently sent out a letter, already mentioned in another thread a few weeks ago, that had a paragraph calling the report a lie (in effect also calling the DS a liar).
Yet just last week, this ex-DS was voted in as a Presbyter.
How is it that this man is able to keep his license, continue pastoring and was able to be voted back into office after all this?
And yet this honest minister from Texas is being raked over the coals over something to stupid as owning a television and being open about it.
And before anyone says anything about signing the AS and still having one . . . no one knows for sure what he included with the signature. I know many ministers who sign the AS, but include a statement of protest over the television clause. So it could very well be that this minister has been very open about having the television and has not lied about it.
It burns me . . . we'll yank a ministers license over television; prohibit them from license over adultery or divorce . . . yet this recent well-documented minister is still allowed to hold license and district office.
I know, this could be deemed as "tearing down of the ministry." But I disagree. The ministry is being torn down, not from my statements bringing this in the open, but by the hypocrisy of accepting lying ministers like this while yet unjustly bashing and condemning honest ministers over television.
JMO
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I don't support lying whoever does it or wherever it happens.
The Jewish revival was a lie.
Having a tv when you signed a statement that you wouldn't is a lie.
The fact is that things in the UPC tend to be enforced by District Superintendents. They don't all do it the same.
The organization is far from perfect. I am not a big time UPC apologist...I think both lies are wrong.
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