All Trinitarians are Lost!!!!!!!!!!!

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by Originalist

How cowardly. You can't answer my points. Please answer ........was it a different Jesus that convicted me, and Spirit baptized me than the Jesus that led me into more truth?

Your question is pointless to me. How am I supposed to know about your life. Notice I said "serving". The one and only true God can do a whole lot for and to someone but that does not mean they are or will serve him. I believe every single person that has walked the earth has been convicted by him.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

Your question is pointless to me. How am I supposed to know about your life. Notice I said "serving". The one and only true God can do a whole lot for and to someone but that does not mean they are or will serve him. I believe every single person that has walked the earth has been convicted by him.

Why would God convict someone of sin and draw them to Christ in a Trinitarian church, since they serve a "different Jesus"?

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by Originalist

Why would God convict someone of sin and draw them to Christ in a Trinitarian church. since they don't serve a "different Jesus"?

Why would got convict a Muslim? Same reason

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

This seems to be a denial that Jesus is God period. How about Jesus is the Father working in the incarnation? "If you have seen ME you seen the Father".

There's one reason and one reason only that Jesus said that. The Father was in Him and He was in the Father. 99.9% of the time, oneness pentecostals will not quote the whole dialog.

"Philip said to Jesus, "Lord, show us the Father. That is all we need."
Jesus answered, "Philip, I have been with you for a long time. So you should know me. The person that has seen me has seen the Father too. So why do you say, 'Show us the Father'? Do you truly believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The things I have told you don't come from me. The Father lives in me, and he is doing his own work. Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me. Or believe because of the miracles I have done."

The Father wasn't Jesus and Jesus wasn't the Father.

It is prophesied we will call the SON........EVERLASTING FATHER. Isaiah 9:6

Im cool with that. I like it. Im fulfilling that prophecy here this morning!

Jesus preexisted as YAH and still is.

And His name shall be called everlasting Father. Since His NAME is everlasting Father, then one should baptize with the preacher/priest intoning "I baptize you in the name of everlasting Father". The truth is, everlasting Father isn't a name, it's an attribute and fits perfectly with the Father being in Jesus and Jesus being in the Father.

[Lafon]

Originally Posted by Originalist

Why would God convict someone of sin and draw them to Christ in a Trinitarian church, since they serve a "different Jesus"?

"...without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him." (Hebrews 11:6, KJV)

God, who does not "see" man as we mortals do, is able to observe the thoughts and intent of one's heart; and when God "sees" one's "faith in him," (regardless of whether they be Trinitarian or whatever), the words of this scriptural passages assures them that they shall receive that which they seek from God. I write this from personal experience, for I was a member of an avowed Trinitarian group for many years, but after seeking God for the revelation of truth about "speaking in tongues," I received the baptism of the Holy Ghost (while yet an active member of that group).

Ever hear of those who received healing while watching one of the so-called television evangelists, simply because they believed the speaker to be "a man of God" that advised them to simply lay their hands on the TV set and God would heal them? Well, it happens all the time! In such instances does God care one whet whether they believe in a trinity or not? Of course not! God does all things according to one's faith in Him.

I knew absolutely nothing about the oneness of God when I received the Holy Ghost. And, I also knew nothing about His oneness when I was immersed in the waters of baptism "in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ" for the remission of my sins. In fact, it was several months afterwards, as I sought to understand the things I was hearing others preach about the oneness of God, that I "diligently" sought God for that revelation. And as is always the case (just as the words of Hebrews 11:6 explicitly asserts), I was given this marvelous revelation.

What I am endeavoring to emphasize here is simply this: God deals with each person based upon their "faith" in Him, and this regardless of one's beliefs regarding His oneness!

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Yes, this church practices water baptisms in the Name of Jesus Christ. I have seen and heard this with my very own eyes. However, you would need to call and talk with my Senior Pastor or someone on staff to confirm what I am telling you.

If I was a betting person, I'd wager that nobody will call your pastor.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

If I was a betting person, I'd wager that nobody will call your pastor.

I welcome for someone to do so, if they were so inclined.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Lafon

"...without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him." (Hebrews 11:6, KJV)

God, who does not "see" man as we mortals do, is able to observe the thoughts and intent of one's heart; and when God "sees" one's "faith in him," (regardless of whether they be Trinitarian or whatever), the words of this scriptural passages assures them that they shall receive that which they seek from God. I write this from personal experience, for I was a member of an avowed Trinitarian group for many years, but after seeking God for the revelation of truth about "speaking in tongues," I received the baptism of the Holy Ghost (while yet an active member of that group).

Ever hear of those who received healing while watching one of the so-called television evangelists, simply because they believed the speaker to be "a man of God" that advised them to simply lay their hands on the TV set and God would heal them? Well, it happens all the time! In such instances does God care one whet whether they believe in a trinity or not? Of course not! God does all things according to one's faith in Him.

I knew absolutely nothing about the oneness of God when I received the Holy Ghost. And, I also knew nothing about His oneness when I was immersed in the waters of baptism "in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ" for the remission of my sins. In fact, it was several months afterwards, as I sought to understand the things I was hearing others preach about the oneness of God, that I "diligently" sought God for that revelation. And as is always the case (just as the words of Hebrews 11:6 explicitly asserts), I was given this marvelous revelation.

What I am endeavoring to emphasize here is simply this: God deals with each person based upon their "faith" in Him, and this regardless of one's beliefs regarding His oneness!

I mostly agree with you, sir. But Hometown Guy could never affirm what you are saying because he thinks Trinitarians believe in "another Jesus" all together.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

Why would got convict a Muslim? Same reason

A pathetic attempt at a diversion on your part.


Trinitarian preachers are in their pulpits preaching on the Lordship of Christ and the need for a savior from sin. The Spirit convicts those in the pews of sin and the need to surrender to the Lordship of Christ. If they are not preaching about the same Jesus you believe in, then why would God even bother to convict the hearers in those churches? Or are you so blinded with pride that everything I just typed went right over your head? Probably.

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

Why would got convict a Muslim? Same reason

Originally Posted by Originalist

A pathetic attempt at a diversion on your part.


Trinitarian preachers are in their pulpits preaching on the Lordship of Christ and the need for a savior from sin. The Spirit convicts those in the pews of sin and the need to surrender to the Lordship of Christ. If they are not preaching about the same Jesus you believe in, then why would God even bother to convict the hearers in those churches? Or are you so blinded with pride that everything I just typed went right over your head? Probably.

Are you going to answer my question?