Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns

[tv1a]

No personal attacks here. Pointed out inconsisties in principles with a brilliant analogy.

Originally Posted by Cindy

Please stop the personal attacks on this thread. They will not be tolerated, if need be a time out will happen.

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[Sam]

Originally Posted by The Lemon

Reminds me of a story. I remember listening to Billy Cole and he made a comment..."You can always tell who our people are in the community, when you see them out and about" He was referring to the "look".

He went on to say, "You say Hi to them and they give you a look that if looks could kill you would just disintegrate, and he said...yes, that is one of ours!"

I have heard many a great preachers and prophet in the UPC mention the lack of love, and spiritual pride in the organization many times. It is an issue that has been there a very long time, and is ever present.

We see them every so often, they comply with the "dress code" but the look on their faces is a look of anger or sourness (like they have been sucking lemons).

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by tv1a

No personal attacks here. Pointed out inconsisties in principles with a brilliant analogy.



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I beg to differ. In which case I have a solution.

[Tlswift2009]

Originally Posted by H Gang

TLS, I watched that video from their website. "The greatest show in Memphis" was what the minister said. This attitude is pervasive in many churches. Obviously most people choose the church they attend because it best suits them, they like it, they feel its the best place to worship for themselves and or their family. But when someone carries the attitude that they are better than others...pride comes before a fall. And a big part of the problem is it's a "show" rather than a walk with God, a Spirt-filled, Spirit-led life.

I believe God has more than one church in a city trying to reach the masses. It would serve us well to believe He is using large, medium and small sized churches to get the job done. It would serve us well to believe that God is visiting more than one congregation each Sunday, and that there are many churches that are equally as precious and as important in God's sight as the one I attend. It would serve us all well to pray for those other churches, love them, hope for their success in fulfilling the Great Commission and consider them a part of the same great cause that we are a part of, even going so far as seeing them as our brothers and sisters in Christ.

Religious elitism is sickening.

AMEN!!! You have said well. I saw that same video and I said to myself, "SHOW"!!!! Pride-Arrogance-Haughtiness, and High Mindedness are very destructive {devisive} spirits. I believe that the Body of Christ members; we ALL need to walk by these precious passages of sciptures:

St. John 13:34-35..."A new commandment I give unto you, That ye LOVE one another; as I have LOVED YOU, that ye also LOVE one another. By this shall ALL men KNOW that ye are MY disciples, if ye have love one to another"....

1ST CORINTHIANS 13:1-13:

1) Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

2) And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

3) And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.

4) Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

5) Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;

6) Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

7) Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

8) Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

9) For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.

10) But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

11) When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

12) For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

13) And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is
charity.

JESUS IS OUR GREATEST EXAMPLE AS TO HOW WE OUGHT TO CONDUCT OURSELVES AS CHRISTIANS IN THIS WORLD OF DARKNESS, AND NO PERSON GOES TO CHURCH TO**SEE A SHOW**GOD'S CHURCH IS NOT A HOUSE OF DRAMMA, BUT A PLACE FOR CORPORATE WORSHIP, FELLOWSHIP, EMPOWERMENT, AND EQUIPPING FOR KINGDOM SERVICE: A SPIRITUALLY LOST WORLD IS TRAPPED IN DARKNESS, AND IS IN NEED OF A LIGHT {JESUS THROUGH OUR LIVES} TO GOD THE WOLRD BACK TO A SAVIOUR WHO CAN TURN ON THE LIGHT OF SALVATION INTO THE LIVES OF ALL THOSE THAT SEEK, AND TURN TO HIM.

[Tlswift2009]

Originally Posted by Sam

We see them every so often, they comply with the "dress code" but the look on their faces is a look of anger or sourness (like they have been sucking lemons).

I'm hearing this quite often; why is this the case????

[Cindy]

http://www.perrynoble.com/blog/pastors-and-sexual-sin/

Disclaimer: There is one sentence that I would not post here, but the article is worth reading.

[AreYouReady?]

I know that article was written to men but that is a very astute, plainly worded and no nonsense article that both men and women, pastor or saint, could heed that advice.

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

I know that article was written to men but that is a very astute, plainly worded and no nonsense article that both men and women, pastor or saint, could heed that advice.

Yep

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Cindy

http://www.perrynoble.com/blog/pastors-and-sexual-sin/

Disclaimer: There is one sentence that I would not post here, but the article is worth reading.

He made great points. But, I think he should have gone further and discussed the "disfunctional" side of the family. It's the old adage of a woman looking for love in all the wrong places. And because a pastor is supposed to be kind, women will gravitate to that kindness not realizing, at the beginning why she is doing so. That sets up an adoration trap that a pastor needs to recognize and be ready for. JMO.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Tlswift2009

I'm hearing this quite often; why is this the case????

It's in the 'eye of the beholder', usually.