BYE BYE kansas Preacher ! ! ! !

[Esther]

Originally Posted by bdlooney

So this only applies to the Conservative brethren? Our message to the more liberated brethren is more like, "Please keep pushing an issue that not everyone wants until you get your way! We have always stood this way but who cares? Change us!"

This is sickening that we don't care that we are possibly losing good brethren over this.

Don't you think we were going to lose good brethern either way?

Originally Posted by bdlooney

So this only applies to the Conservative brethren? Our message to the more liberated brethren is more like, "Please keep pushing an issue that not everyone wants until you get your way! We have always stood this way but who cares? Change us!"

This is sickening that we don't care that we are possibly losing good brethren over this.

lol

it goes both ways...

maybe the "liberal" brethren just didn't like rules being placed over them and wanted God to be able to lead them to do television if He so choose, rather than have men tell them what they can and can't do...

[LaVonne]

Originally Posted by bdlooney

So this only applies to the Conservative brethren? Our message to the more liberated brethren is more like, "Please keep pushing an issue that not everyone wants until you get your way! We have always stood this way but who cares? Change us!"

This is sickening that we don't care that we are possibly losing good brethren over this.

No, I did not say that. Kansas Preacher has been very vocal about leaving when/if Res.4 passes.

[AmazingGrace]

Originally Posted by CareyM

No, I did not say that. Kansas Preacher has been very vocal about leaving when/if Res.4 passes. Frankly, I just get tired of those who feel like they are "too holy" for UPC...jmho.

AMEN

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by CareyM

No, I did not say that. Kansas Preacher has been very vocal about leaving when/if Res.4 passes. Frankly, I just get tired of those who feel like they are "too holy" for UPC...jmho.

Carey, the UPC just changed.

KP did not.

If this is a matter of principle and conviction, why speak so harshly about him?

He has not shown an ugly spirit in any way.

He is an honorable man.

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84

I haven't worked in like 4 weeks now.... so I don't have anything better to do but be quick on teh draw...

I was wondering where the post went after I posted my reply though... I thought maybe I put it in the wrong thread or something... lol

I'll repost it so it's not just a quote.

Is the unemployment forced or a choice?

[Felicity]

I don't think that just because people have "issues" with the UPC that they should "get out". Not at all. I would rather see them stay and work to make things better - however and whatever that means to them.

It's when we work "together" that great things and change can be accomplished if indeed change is necessary, because some changes are NOT necessary and some won't necessarily make things better. And again .... I suppose what changes are and aren't necessary and whether or not that makes things better or contrariwise depends on your point of view.

But i definitely do NOT believe that just because you don't agree with everything or like how things are that people should necessarily leave.
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[Esther]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Carey, the UPC just changed.

KP did not.

If this is a matter of principle and conviction, why speak so harshly about him?

He has not shown an ugly spirit in any way.

He is an honorable man.

Agreed.

Originally Posted by Felicity

I'll repost it so it's not just a quote.

Is the unemployment forced or a choice?

lol

a little bit of both...

I got out of school... and am not sure what to do...

but am pretty sure that, long term, what I went to school for isn't what i should be doing long term, so I'm deciding if I wanna go back and get a 2nd undergrad, raise my GPA, and consider grad school...

or if, since I don't need college to be a minister in the org I am in currently, to just go with that...

overall I just have no idea where to go/what to do... lol

<--- needs direction, but has a hard time asking for it...

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by LaGirl

i say if they make threats about leaving...they should make good on their threats and GO!

I say that we shouldn't back folks into corners, and give them room to change their minds.