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Old 07-17-2007, 04:56 PM
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You mean you wear those skirts with the hoops in them so no one can see your hips?
I wish!!! HAHA!!! I wear pants but I like fuller pants so they don't cling to me!
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You mean you wear those skirts with the hoops in them so no one can see your hips?
I guess ones idea of sexual way is not the same as others.
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You have never found the curve of a woman's hips or backside attractive? Be honest now, Jesus is reading...
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Old 07-17-2007, 04:58 PM
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I guess ones idea of sexual way is not the same as others.
If I go out and feel that I am not trying to attract attention then I feel that is modest. I wear pants but I dress a lot more modest than I did when I was UPC!
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You have never found the curve of a woman's hips or backside attractive? Be honest now, Jesus is reading...
IF you are asking me I can only wonder why since I never hinted otherwise. We are not talking about her curve or backside or hips, we are talking about dress that shows it off. You suggested the ONLY dress a woman can wear and NOT be showing her body off in a sexual way was to wear one with hoops and I simply pointed out we don't all have the same idea as to what showing ones body off sexually means. Sure is a lot of assumption going on lately
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If I go out and feel that I am not trying to attract attention then I feel that is modest. I wear pants but I dress a lot more modest than I did when I was UPC!
Yes but according to Sheltie, in order for to NOT show off your hips in a sexual way this is what you have to wear
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Old 07-17-2007, 05:02 PM
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No, I just have a stricter definition of modesty.
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Yes but according to Sheltie, in order for to NOT show off your hips in a sexual way this is what you have to wear
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Old 07-17-2007, 05:10 PM
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The only other option would be a robe (since they do not have waists)... then it is a straight line from your shoulders to your ankles....
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Old 07-17-2007, 05:17 PM
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Well that is really MY question. What is modesty? How can we attack someone elses idea of modesty if we don't have some rule for which we define it?

Modesty, as pertains to this thread, is really about dress, not going to the movies

But here are some dictionary defs
–noun, plural -ties. 1.the quality of being modest; freedom from vanity, boastfulness, etc. 2.regard for decency of behavior, speech, dress, etc. 3.simplicity; moderation.

modesty
1531, "freedom from exaggeration, self-control," from M.Fr. modestie, from L. modestia "moderation," from modestus "moderate, keeping measure, sober," from modus "measure, manner" (see mode (1)). Meaning "having a moderate opinion of oneself" is from 1553. Modest (adj.) is first recorded 1565.

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modesty

noun
1. freedom from vanity or conceit [ant: immodesty]
2. formality and propriety of manner

Modest
mod·est (mŏd'ĭst) Pronunciation Key
adj.

1. Having or showing a moderate estimation of one's own talents, abilities, and value.
2. Having or proceeding from a disinclination to call attention to oneself; retiring or diffident. See Synonyms at shy1.
3. Observing conventional proprieties in speech, behavior, or dress.
4. Free from showiness or ostentation; unpretentious. See Synonyms at plain.
5. Moderate or limited in size, quantity, or range; not extreme: a modest price; a newspaper with a modest circulation.

This is a comprehensive definition that most Christians adhere to.

Why is that we (Oneness Pentecostals) have decided that modesty is defined as an abstinence from certain apparel as opposed to a mere moderation?

Are knee shorts immodest? Does a woman wearing slacks look immodest?
Who decides these things? It seems we always arrive at a complete abstinence as opposed to a more reasoned application of common sense.

In my estimation modesty is absent at many of our church services and conferences. We must stay in the finest hotels, wear the most up to date name brands, and carry the newest gadgets available (cell phones, blackberries). Not to mention an immodest, vain spirit.
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