IF Res 4 Does NOT Pass??

[stmatthew]

Many Cons have stated plainly that they will leave if the Res 4 passes. I am curious to know what those that are supporting Res 4 will do if it does not pass.

Will you go ahead and start advertising anyway?
Will there be another "Resolution Run" at a future GC?
Will you leave the Org?
Will you back away and just let it go, allowing that the Org is settled in NOT having tv as a viable means of evangelizing?



and lastly..........................










Will you get rid of the TV you have ready and waiting for a passed resolution?

[Nahum]

Matt, with all due respect, as someone who is not a part of the org, why do you care?

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Matt, with all due respect, as someone who is not a part of the org, why do you care?

Why shouldn't I care??

1. I have a son that is currently looking to license with the UPCI in a few years.
2. I have friends (ministry and saints) that I care about in the Org.
3. And I am on a discussion board that is very good about talking about UPC events.



These reasons are enough for me to ask the question.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

Why shouldn't I care??

1. I have a son that is currently looking to license with the UPCI in a few years.
2. I have friends (ministry and saints) that I care about in the Org.
3. And I am on a discussion board that is very good about talking about UPC events.



These reasons are enough for me to ask the question.

Fair enough.

In answer to your question, I don't know that the resolution passing is the "be all and end all" cure for what ails the org. Most of us wouldn't leave over this one issue.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Fair enough.

In answer to your question, I don't know that the resolution passing is the "be all and end all" cure for what ails the org. Most of us wouldn't leave over this one issue.

The resolution was never touted as anything for what ails the org. What ails the org is division and control. We are stuck in a paradigm of thinking and every other group in history that started off with a bang got bogged down through tradition, creeds and control till they lost the fire they originally had.

Pentecost in the early 1900's was not born out of doctrine. It was born out of a hunger for a deeper experience with God and to be empowered to reach the lost. Once we got that then the groups decided to nail down the lid on doctrine but what happens often as a result is they stifled the very spirit that got us here.

[StillStanding]

What I hope Doesn't happen is the ultra-con wing feeling that the vote is a mandate to kick the liberals/moderates out of the organization!

The venom that we are seeing from the AFF poster, UltraCon, could be magnified as that wing feels empowered! I sincerely hope NOT!!

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

The resolution was never touted as anything for what ails the org. What ails the org is division and control. We are stuck in a paradigm of thinking and every other group in history that started off with a bang got bogged down through tradition, creeds and control till they lost the fire they originally had.

Pentecost in the early 1900's was not born out of doctrine. It was born out of a hunger for a deeper experience with God and to be empowered to reach the lost. Once we got that then the groups decided to nail down the lid on doctrine but what happens often as a result is they stifled the very spirit that got us here.

Excellent Point!

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

The resolution was never touted as anything for what ails the org. What ails the org is division and control. We are stuck in a paradigm of thinking and every other group in history that started off with a bang got bogged down through tradition, creeds and control till they lost the fire they originally had.

Pentecost in the early 1900's was not born out of doctrine. It was born out of a hunger for a deeper experience with God and to be empowered to reach the lost. Once we got that then the groups decided to nail down the lid on doctrine but what happens often as a result is they stifled the very spirit that got us here.

This should be nominated as post of the year!

You know, I would hope all of those who are in the org who have T.V's would turn in their licences, and do what's right, but the reality of it is they have not done it yet. They sign when they get thier license and each year an affidavit that states they do not have a television in their home. So they need to repent and either get rid of their televisions or get out. "All liars shall have their place in the lake of fire." I don't care how good you can speak.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Salt&Light

You know, I would hope all of those who are in the org who have T.V's would turn in their licences, and do what's right, but the reality of it is they have not done it yet. They sign when they get thier license and each year an affidavit that states they do not have a television in their home. So they need to repent and either get rid of their televisions or get out. "All liars shall have their place in the lake of fire." I don't care how good you can speak.

Blah, blah, blah, blah.


What a simpleton statement.

I suppose everyone who violates any of the "stongly disapproved of" issues needs to do the same? That would leave about two people from Kansas left in the UPC.