Is Acts 2:38 your god?

[SDG]

In a captivating message at the 2007 BOTT, Jeff Arnold, a solid PAJCer, and a favorite preacher of mine, remarked that many within the movement have not moved beyond Acts 2:38 and Knowing the book.

He went as far to exhort the listeners that many in the movement don't really KNOW GOD.

One interesting quote from the message and I paraphrase is .....

"You are married to doctrine and have divorced youself from Deity."

What say ye of this message? I will post audio of the message later.

Have some made Acts 2:38 and standards THE MESSAGE ... while Jesus is sitting on the outside looking in????


Just asking a question ....

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

In a captivating message at the 2007 BOTT, Jeff Arnold, a solid PAJCer, and a favorite preacher of mine, remarked that many within the movement have not moved beyond Acts 2:38 and Knowing the book.

He went as far to exhort the listeners that many in the movement don't really KNOW GOD.

One interesting quote from the message and I paraphrase is .....

"You are married to doctrine and have divorced youself from Deity."

What say ye of this message? I will post audio of the message later.

Have some made Acts 2:38 and standards THE MESSAGE ... while Jesus is sitting on the outside looking in????


Just asking a question ....

That is important questions, and something I have been thinking along the same lines recently.

Whether we know God or not, doesn't negate the importance or validity of the message though!


JMHO Though.

Originally Posted by Ron

That is important questions, and something I have been thinking along the same lines recently.

Whether we know God or not, doesn't negate the importance or validity of the message though!


JMHO Though.

I have been seeking more from God...I think we are just touching the tip of what God has for us, the power of deliverence, healing, love, removing our demons! God is so great, and so often we just really don't truly trust...we say we do...but often we don't we can't really let go and let God deal with us!

[SDG]

Can "having truth" become a graven image ... by which God and all others are measured?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Can "having truth" become a graven image ... by which God and all others are measured?

Yes...look at the Jews. They were arrogant about where they came from. They said "Look, Abraham is our father".....they said "Look Moses gave US the law"....they said "Look, we are doctors and scribes, don't tell US about the law"

[Nahum]

Your methodology is clear here:

1. A de-emphasis on what the Word says.
2. A disdain for what the Word says.
3. An emphasis on new "revelation" over what the Word says.

There is no way in hades Jeff Arnold meant that as a slam against people who believe Acts 2:38.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Your methodology is clear here:

1. A de-emphasis on what the Word says.
2. A disdain for what the Word says.
3. An emphasis on new "revelation" over what the Word says.

There is no way in hades Jeff Arnold meant that as a slam against people who believe Acts 2:38.

PP .... your accusations are false ... I am simply highlighting how some are presenting the God-breathed inerrant and holy Acts 2:38 message.

If you don't like what you read ... don't accept it ... but to accuse me of somehow disdaining the Word or having some type of new revelation that know one else has ... is a weak attempt to marginalize what is happening in the Oneness movement and its PCI history ... which is still trying to be SANITIZED apparently.

I expect an apology.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

PP .... your accusations are false ... I am simply highlighting how some are presenting the God-breathed inerrant and holy Acts 2:38 message.

If you don't like what you read ... don't accept it ... but to accuse me of somehow disdaining the Word or having some type of new revelation that know one else has ... is a weak attempt to marginalize what is happening in the Oneness movement and its PCI history ... which is still trying to be SANITIZED.

I expect an apology.

I'm horribly sorry, Daniel.

Why continue to attack those you say you agree with? The spirit of your post is that we elevate Acts 2:38 above God. That is wrong, and insidious. You are not-so-subtly accusing us of idol worship. The reason we love Acts 2:38 so much is because it tells us how to get right with God.

What's wrong with loving that message?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

I'm horribly sorry, Daniel.

Why continue to attack those you say you agree with? The spirit of your post is that we elevate Acts 2:38 above God. That is wrong, and insidious. You are not-so-subtly accusing us of idol worship. The reason we love Acts 2:38 so much is because it tells us how to get right with God.

What's wrong with loving that message?

That's not what I got out of it. It seems he was saying SOME Of us do and that was infact what Jeff Arnold said and I agree For some folks all they know is Acts 2:38 and Standards and nothing more when there is so much more. He was not saying it's wrong to love Acts 2:38, but there is so much more in the word beyond Acts 2:38

Consider what Hebrews says
Heb 6:1 Therefore, having left the discourse of the beginning of Christ, let us go on to full growth, not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,

Heb 6:2 of the baptisms, of doctrine, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.

Heb 6:3 And this we will do, if God permits.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

That's not what I got out of it. It seems he was saying SOME Of us do and that was infact what Jeff Arnold said and I agree For some folks all they know is Acts 2:38 and Standards and nothing more when there is so much more. He was not saying it's wrong to love Acts 2:38, but there is so much more in the word beyond Acts 2:38

Consider what Hebrews says
Heb 6:1 Therefore, having left the discourse of the beginning of Christ, let us go on to full growth, not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,

Heb 6:2 of the baptisms, of doctrine, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.

Heb 6:3 And this we will do, if God permits.

Praxeas,

I, having read the full body of Daniel's posting in the past few days, completely disagree. We all have agendas, and Daniel's is crystal clear here.
He has every right to believe whatever he wants to - no matter how cloaked, misguided, and wrong it may be.