Does Time Exist?

[StillStanding]

Here is an interesting scientific article in Discover magazine if your into that type of thing!

Newsflash: Time May Not Exist

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

Here is an interesting scientific article in Discover magazine if your into that type of thing!

Newsflash: Time May Not Exist

ONLY time will tell

I did not read the article.

But in truth, time exist only in the natural realm that progresses from youth to old, from evening to evening, from Winter to winter. Time does not exist in the spiritual world being eternal, but state only. There is a change is state in the spiritual world, subsequent one to other which may be seen as time.

[RandyWayne]

The events he probes last for about 100 attoseconds, or 100 quintillionths of a second. For a little perspective, 100 attoseconds is to one second as a second is to 300 million years.

But even Krausz works far from the frontier of time. There is a temporal realm called the Planck scale, where even attoseconds drag by like eons. It marks the edge of known physics, a region where distances and intervals are so short that the very concepts of time and space start to break down. Planck time—the smallest unit of time that has any physical meaning—is 10-43 second, less than a trillionth of a trillionth of an attosecond. Beyond that? Tempus incognito. At least for now.

I love this type of stuff. I can imagine SOME people reading this and saying "nope. too small. doesn't happen. what humanistic hogwash! yup."

Great article! Thanks for publishing the link.

[StillStanding]

Here is a quote from the article:

“I recently went to the National Institute of Standards and Technology in Boulder,” says Lloyd. (NIST is the government lab that houses the atomic clock that standardizes time for the nation.) “I said something like, ‘Your clocks measure time very accurately.’ They told me, ‘Our clocks do not measure time.’ I thought, Wow, that’s very humble of these guys. But they said, ‘No, time is defined to be what our clocks measure.’ Which is true. They define the time standards for the globe: Time is defined by the number of clicks of their clocks.”

Rovelli, the advocate of a timeless universe, says the NIST timekeepers have it right. Moreover, their point of view is consistent with the Wheeler-DeWitt equation. “We never really see time,” he says. “We see only clocks. If you say this object moves, what you really mean is that this object is here when the hand of your clock is here, and so on. We say we measure time with clocks, but we see only the hands of the clocks, not time itself. And the hands of a clock are a physical variable like any other. So in a sense we cheat because what we really observe are physical variables as a function of other physical variables, but we represent that as if everything is evolving in time.

I have always found it impossible to comprehend what heaven will be like when time is no more. Will our watches not move? Will everything freeze into a position?

The only thing that makes sense to me is that time no longer matters.

[tbpew]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

Here is a quote from the article:



I have always found it impossible to comprehend what heaven will be like when time is no more. Will our watches not move? Will everything freeze into a position?

The only thing that makes sense to me is that time no longer matters.

one possibility I recently pondered was based on some general thinking surrounding:
1. the absence of displacement
2. the derivative in Calculus

1. Time is often referred to as the fourth dimension. As such, it provides a basis to think of it as a continuium upon which movement (displacement) can occur. If we are transformed with entry into the Kingdom of God and become part of the omnipresent-ness that pertains to the Spirit of God, then we could consider that we can 'BE' anywhere but to get to there does not require displacement, hence we never experience the reality of time because it no longer has a stage to occur on.

2. The derivative of x as a function that pertains to time, eliminates the influence of time for the purpose of evaluating the function for some specific limit. It takes the influence of time and removes it by evaluating a time-varying function at one specific point. many of us were taught in Calc 1 that we are evaluating the function at smaller and smaller intervals of time, an interval that we will let approach zero --aka, the moment. If everything in the Kingdom of God is IN THE MOMENT, then past and future have no basis for being experienced because the POINT that you are in is indestinguishable from the any other POINT.

I am just sharing some ponderings, not trying to submit anything as revelation.

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by tbpew

one possibility I recently pondered was based on some general thinking surrounding:
1. the absence of displacement
2. the derivative in Calculus

1. Time is often referred to as the fourth dimension. As such, it provides a basis to think of it as a continuium upon which movement (displacement) can occur. If we are transformed with entry into the Kingdom of God and become part of the omnipresent-ness that pertains to the Spirit of God, then we could consider that we can 'BE' anywhere but to get to there does not require displacement, hence we never experience the reality of time because it no longer has a stage to occur on.

2. The derivative of x as a function that pertains to time, eliminates the influence of time for the purpose of evaluating the function for some specific limit. It takes the influence of time and removes it by evaluating a time-varying function at one specific point. many of us were taught in Calc 1 that we are evaluating the function at smaller and smaller intervals of time, an interval that we will let approach zero --aka, the moment. If everything in the Kingdom of God is IN THE MOMENT, then past and future have no basis for being experienced because the POINT that you are in is indestinguishable from the any other POINT.

I am just sharing some ponderings, not trying to submit anything as revelation.

*whoosh ---- right over Felicity's head*

Want to say that again in 25 words or less that I can understand?

[Revelationist]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

Here is a quote from the article:



I have always found it impossible to comprehend what heaven will be like when time is no more. Will our watches not move? Will everything freeze into a position?

The only thing that makes sense to me is that time no longer matters.

God created time... does that help? : )

Jerry Moon

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by Revelationist

God created time... does that help? : )

Jerry Moon

Like God created the four corners of the earth?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

Here is a quote from the article:



I have always found it impossible to comprehend what heaven will be like when time is no more. Will our watches not move? Will everything freeze into a position?

The only thing that makes sense to me is that time no longer matters.

Are you sure it's in heaven where we will be? And are you sure we will have watches?