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View Poll Results: Does God Get Involved In Exposing the Sins of Children For Their Parents To Know?
He does not create situations with the intent of exposing our kids disobedience to us 7 41.18%
He honors parents' authority and finds ways of exposing our kids disobedience to our rules 10 58.82%
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Old 07-25-2007, 07:08 PM
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A question for apostolic parents.

I was thinking about something today. We all know the Bible teaches children are to obey their parents; honor your mother and father sort of stuff.
Well, I got to thinking about what God does when we make rules for our children. Do you y'all believe that God creates situations to expose our children's disobediance towards us parents?

Let me give you an example. Let's say a parent sets a certain radius of miles his child is allowed drive away from home. Let's say it's because the parent knows there is a larger city close by, and also knows it takes a bit more skill to drive in that town than what his child has. So, Dad tells Jr. he is not allowed to go into City "A."

At first the child obeys his father's wishes and stays out of City "A." Eventually temptation takes over, the child disobeys his dad, and goes into the forbidden city. He gets away with it a few times and going into City "A" becomes a regular habit.

One day the child goes into the city, just like he has done several times before. This time, however, the car breaks down, he has to call Dad, and Dad finds out his son has been disobeying him by going into City "A."

Do you believe that God created the situation of the car breaking down because He honors the Dad's authority over his children and the disobedience needed to be exposed because of His honoring that authority?

Or, do you believe that God had nothing to do with the car breaking down, wasn't honoring the father's authority in any way, and the whole thing happened just because it did?

I am going somewhere with this, but I want to see what the responses from our members are before I reveal why this has all been on my mind. Thank you for offering your opinion.
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Old 07-25-2007, 07:18 PM
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I think things just happen! Sometimes we try to read waaaaay too much into some events!
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Old 07-25-2007, 07:22 PM
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I think things just happen! Sometimes we try to read waaaaay too much into some events!
So, in the example I gave, you don't believe it was God exposing the child's disobediance to his parents? A situation like this hasn't happened in my life because my son does not have his driver's license yet.
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Old 07-26-2007, 02:01 PM
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I think things just happen! Sometimes we try to read waaaaay too much into some events!
I'm with you on this one. I read the two choices and I think that too many people on this forum are bored to think about such a thing. Kids are kids and they usually tell on themselves or the parents can just remember back...and just know what trouble the kiddos are getting into
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Old 07-26-2007, 02:09 PM
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I'm with you on this one. I read the two choices and I think that too many people on this forum are bored to think about such a thing. Kids are kids and they usually tell on themselves or the parents can just remember back...and just know what trouble the kiddos are getting into
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Old 07-26-2007, 02:04 PM
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I think things just happen! Sometimes we try to read waaaaay too much into some events!
I agree with Pianoman here completely..
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Old 07-26-2007, 02:55 PM
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I used to think my dad had a direct link to God and although he was one of the most loving men… I had a great reverential fear of him… he seemed to know everything. He also was used in the gifts…I always felt it was his close walk with God… he had the gift of discernment.

My girls now think that I have an uncanny way of knowing things… I think it is more that I try to stay close in fellowship with them and it is just very easy to detect changes in relationship. Withdrawal or being preoccupied is always a signal to me something is up.. I have radar feelers up all the time and I can usually tell when something is being hid from me or bothering my kids. The claims that I have eyes in the back of my head is just because I know how they think and usually have suspicion of what they are doing… lol I was a kid once.

As far as to Rico’s question… I feel that God’s eyes are on his children. I do believe that circumstances can happen at times to wake up a kid heading down a wrong path. I trust that God can allow parents to be aware of problems if parents are prayerfully raising their children in fear and admonition of the Lord.

I don’t think that is it purposely done by God… life happens… but timing can absolutely be of God…. God can use any circumstance to speak to those he cares about.
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Old 07-26-2007, 08:02 PM
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I think things just happen! Sometimes we try to read waaaaay too much into some events!
Perhaps.. but I will testify that my Dad had a vision one evening in 1975 that sobered me up and turned my life around. I stumbled in one September evening prior to the Fort Worth General Conference, drunk, high and reeking of both pot and cigarettes. There, to my chagrin, sat my dad in his well worn recliner.

He growled "sit down and shut up! I am going to tell you two things.. the first is what God told me and the second is what I am telling you!"

I immediately began to sober up and was instantly able to hear the wails of a travailing mother from the back bedroom of the parsonage.

Dad then began to tell me everywhere I had been, who I had been with, where I went, what I did while there, what I purchased, what I drank, where I bought what I drank all complete with times! I asked him who had followed me and his one word response was, "Jesus!"

He then told me that when he knelt to pray for me that night it was like he had gone to a moving picture show and God revealed to him everything he had told me and he was spot on in every detail!

He then gave me God's message. He told me that God had told him that HE was through messing with me. I had played games with my salvation and my calling to ministry long enough. If I didn't get it together God was finished with me!

By this time I was almost completely sober. Adrenalin has an amazing effect on sobriety.

Realizing that I had now sobered up, my dad then shared the second part of the revelation with me.

Using that short finger, part of which he lost to a mill saw, he pointed at me and with his piercing gray eyes boring into my tear filled brown ones he said, "Phil, if you ever come into this house in this condition again I am going to beat you like the man you think you are and then throw you and your clothes into the front yard. I will tell God and man that I never had a son named Phil."

Finally he broke and began to weep and came over and laid his hands on me and began to pray for mercy for my soul.

I had not planned to go to the Fort Worth GC with my parents but after this event it was either go with them or have them stay home with me. I went and it was there that I received a life changing experience and stepped into my call. Within months of that event I was preaching revivals with souls being saved.

So, all that said to say this: God is concerned with the salvation of your children and disobedience can and will result in your kid's souls being lost. If it is important to you and important to their salvation, Jesus will definitely bring those things done in darkness by your children to light for you parents.

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Old 07-25-2007, 07:25 PM
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Maybe I should switch this to some sort of poll. Can someone explain to me how to do that? I have only done it once and that was a long time ago. I have forgotten how.
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I think God will always tell praying parents when something is not kosher with their kids. He has for my wife and I anyway. What is the saying "Be sure your sins will find you out".
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