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Old 04-11-2014, 11:36 AM
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Federal Judge: Indiana Must Recognize Gay Couple's

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5126782.html

Is the pulpit next? It's seems to be getting uncomfortable allowing secular government to be involved in marriage.

Should we get out of the 501c3 tax exempt trap?
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Old 04-11-2014, 12:23 PM
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What is crazy is that the federal government is now stepping in and forcing this on the states. When the 'revolution' first began it was up to the individual states to decide.

I work in the County Clerk's Office at my local courthouse. I will NOT issue a marriage license to a same-gender couple. It appears I could be job hunting at some point in the near future.
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Old 04-11-2014, 12:30 PM
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Re: Federal Judge: Indiana Must Recognize Gay Coup

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What is crazy is that the federal government is now stepping in and forcing this on the states. When the 'revolution' first began it was up to the individual states to decide.

I work in the County Clerk's Office at my local courthouse. I will NOT issue a marriage license to a same-gender couple. It appears I could be job hunting at some point in the near future.

There was a gay bash-back at the church I use to attend. Spray painted the van-lol.
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Old 04-13-2014, 04:44 PM
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Re: Federal Judge: Indiana Must Recognize Gay Coup

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What is crazy is that the federal government is now stepping in and forcing this on the states. When the 'revolution' first began it was up to the individual states to decide.

I work in the County Clerk's Office at my local courthouse. I will NOT issue a marriage license to a same-gender couple. It appears I could be job hunting at some point in the near future.

Yet the SCOTOS threw out the Defense of Marriage act because they deemed it a violation of States' Rights. But of course there is no contradiction here.


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Old 04-11-2014, 10:28 PM
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Re: Federal Judge: Indiana Must Recognize Gay Coup

States rights are being trampled right and left.

This ruling. Bundy Ranch and the BLM.

This is an overreach by the fed judge.
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Old 04-12-2014, 09:53 AM
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States rights are being trampled right and left.

This ruling. Bundy Ranch and the BLM.

This is an overreach by the fed judge.
Amen!!
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Old 04-12-2014, 05:53 PM
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501c3 -- oh my!
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Ultimately, the state shouldn't be regulating private associations and relationships. I like the way the Quakers used to do it. They'd have a meeting and the couple would exchange promises, a Quaker marriage certificate was given and they signed their Bibles and husband and wife. They often refused to seek a state license to marry or file their marriages with the state. The marriage was entirely a private association. And even the termination of their marriages were handled privately unless there was a criminal violation of the law such as assault or kidnapping.

We really need to begin drawing a distinction between "Civil Marriage" and "Holy Matrimony". Some religious communities will unite couples in "Holy Matrimony" and leave it up to each couple as to rather they want to legalize their marriage with the state. In a sense, these churches have taken marriage back and defined it in accordance to their convictions within their fellowship.

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Ultimately, the state shouldn't be regulating private associations and relationships. I like the way the Quakers used to do it. They'd have a meeting and the couple would exchange promises, a Quaker marriage certificate was given and they signed their Bibles and husband and wife. They often refused to seek a state license to marry or file their marriages with the state. The marriage was entirely a private association. And even the termination of their marriages were handled privately unless there was a criminal violation of the law such as assault or kidnapping.

We really need to begin drawing a distinction between "Civil Marriage" and "Holy Matrimony". Some religious communities will unite couples in "Holy Matrimony" and leave it up to each couple as to rather they want to legalize their marriage with the state. In a sense, these churches have taken marriage back and defined it in accordance to their convictions within their fellowship.
I agree, and for the record, I am pro-gay Marriage. Allow gay people to be civilly married, for reasons such as taxes, inheritances, medical proxies, estates, etc., in no means that you need to believe they are married in the eyes of God.

And I don't think any of the gay people I know would have any interest in forcing a minister who believes that they are biggest hellbound perverts in the world to marry them in a church. There are plenty of gay-affirming churches these days.

Ultimately it doesn't hurt you! (fundamentalists, not you personally Auquila). Oh, it erodes the family, it erodes good Christian Values.....

Do you protest allowing Muslims to marry in the United States, what about Atheists, who are going to raise little Atheist children?

You can't control the world. You can't legislate your morality. God gave us free will, and this country gave us freedom of (and from if the case may be) religion.
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I agree, and for the record, I am pro-gay Marriage. Allow gay people to be civilly married, for reasons such as taxes, inheritances, medical proxies, estates, etc., in no means that you need to believe they are married in the eyes of God.

And I don't think any of the gay people I know would have any interest in forcing a minister who believes that they are biggest hellbound perverts in the world to marry them in a church. There are plenty of gay-affirming churches these days.

Ultimately it doesn't hurt you! (fundamentalists, not you personally Auquila). Oh, it erodes the family, it erodes good Christian Values.....

Do you protest allowing Muslims to marry in the United States, what about Atheists, who are going to raise little Atheist children?

You can't control the world. You can't legislate your morality. God gave us free will, and this country gave us freedom of (and from if the case may be) religion.
Also, if we legalize gay marriage... we'll soon see, "gay divorce". And that will make for fabulous television! lol
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