I don't know if this is something that is unique to my area or not, but the Pentecostals here are so hateful!
There is no love. If you don't go to their church (literally their 4 walls) you are shunned, ignored, etc. They won't even "fellowship" with other Pentecostal churches in the city. Or even family, unless they attend the same church.
I do not get this. What happed to loving others? What happened to banding together with our Christian brothers and sisters and helping each other along the way?
And if they think people who go to other churches aren't saved (not their call, but just for argument sake), wouldn't that be MORE reason to be salt and light and help lead them in what they consider to be the right direction?
I have even heard people close to me say they "don't care what happens to that church or anyone in it" when their own siblings and parents go to "that" church, not to mention people they literally grew up with.
How in the world can you love on and minister to a lost and dying world if you can't love other Christians or even your own family??
The "United" part in the "United Pentecostal Church" is kind of a nebulous concept...
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This is NOT a UPCI issue...it is an Apostolic Pentecostal issue.
Definitely. The snobbier Apostolics don't come from the UPCI, in my experience. That seems more common among independent groups--especially those where their pastor teaches that they can't fellowship with anyone except local church members.
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Definitely. The snobbier Apostolics don't come from the UPCI, in my experience. That seems more common among independent groups--especially those where their pastor teaches that they can't fellowship with anyone except local church members.
Exactly.
My two daughters and their friend got the Holy Ghost at HYC two years ago.
The friend started dating some guy from the independant church down the road.
Now my daughters are no longer living up to her standards so she don't associate with us anymore.
Sad.
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In fact I think that the insinuation of "hateful" Pentecostals is coming mostly from the fertile imaginations of bitter, backslidden ex Apostolics who are constantly trying to find a way to justify their actions. ~ strait shooter
Definitely. The snobbier Apostolics don't come from the UPCI, in my experience. That seems more common among independent groups--especially those where their pastor teaches that they can't fellowship with anyone except local church members.
I don't know if this is something that is unique to my area or not, but the Pentecostals here are so hateful!
There is no love. If you don't go to their church (literally their 4 walls) you are shunned, ignored, etc. They won't even "fellowship" with other Pentecostal churches in the city. Or even family, unless they attend the same church.
I do not get this. What happed to loving others? What happened to banding together with our Christian brothers and sisters and helping each other along the way?
And if they think people who go to other churches aren't saved (not their call, but just for argument sake), wouldn't that be MORE reason to be salt and light and help lead them in what they consider to be the right direction?
I have even heard people close to me say they "don't care what happens to that church or anyone in it" when their own siblings and parents go to "that" church, not to mention people they literally grew up with.
How in the world can you love on and minister to a lost and dying world if you can't love other Christians or even your own family??
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Originally Posted by deacon blues
The "United" part in the "United Pentecostal Church" is kind of a nebulous concept...
Do we know they are UPC?
BTW in my example the church was UPC but left years ago when the others split
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There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.