Apostolic Friends Forum
Tab Menu 1
Go Back   Apostolic Friends Forum > The Sanctuary > Deep Waters
Facebook

Notices

Deep Waters 'Deep Calleth Unto Deep ' -The place to go for Ministry discussions. Please keep it civil. Remember to discuss the issues, not each other.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-08-2012, 07:17 PM
Sheila's Avatar
Sheila Sheila is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 206
What exactly is the Apostolic Belief System?

Just exactly how do the Apostolics believe? I come from a Christian church and have recently moved to a Southern Baptist. I disagree on several points with both of these churches. I've only been seriously studying the Bible for the past three years. I gravitated here because I have been called many things for the threads that I have put forth. Jew, oneness, mormon, etc.
I study where I am led--this was after asking God to teach me.
Yeshua Bless You
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-08-2012, 08:44 PM
Praxeas's Avatar
Praxeas Praxeas is offline
Go Dodgers!


 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 45,787
Re: What exactly is the Apostolic Belief System?

And Iesous bless you too
__________________
Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:


  1. There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
  2. The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
  3. Every sinner must repent of their sins.
  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
  5. That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
  6. The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-08-2012, 09:38 PM
bbyrd009 bbyrd009 is offline
Banned


 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Colorado
Posts: 6,178
Re: What exactly is the Apostolic Belief System?

There's a pretty good overview somewhere on this site.
They disagree on the particulars, but pretty much all add
"...with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues" to
Acts 2:38.

I'll allow a current Apostolic to fill you in further;
Sam might be a pretty good witness there.
There are also some disputed differences
in baptismal procedure.

They pretty much
all feel called to proselytize, I think; so,
SBaptist+HRoller-Charismatic, maybe.
Tough to find a group more interested
in studying the Word; or more hard-headed
in their interpretations of it. Endless Godhead debate.

For your edification, please view
South Park episode, "Mormons
was the correct answer."
This is the old, socially-conscious-
at-any-cost SP, not what it has become.

I have something else to call you-
blessed! It can be unbelievably difficult
to break from a sect that one has been raised in.
Peace.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-08-2012, 10:24 PM
AreYouReady? AreYouReady? is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 5,600
Re: What exactly is the Apostolic Belief System?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheila View Post
Just exactly how do the Apostolics believe? I come from a Christian church and have recently moved to a Southern Baptist. I disagree on several points with both of these churches. I've only been seriously studying the Bible for the past three years. I gravitated here because I have been called many things for the threads that I have put forth. Jew, oneness, mormon, etc.
I study where I am led--this was after asking God to teach me.
Yeshua Bless You
Sheila, many denominations call themselves 'Apostolic'. The Catholic Church believes itself to be 'Apostolic'.

Personally, I think people just love to label themselves and others. I really dislike labels.

Apostolics believe in receiving the Holy Ghost with the initial experience of speaking in tongues. Some, that are called "trinitarians" believe that there are 3 separate and distinct persons in the Godhead. People who call themselves 'Oneness' believe that the whole of God is wrapped in a robe of flesh, in the man Jesus. I am of the belief that God came to earth and manifested Himself in the man Jesus. The bible says God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
(John 4:24)

The Holy Spirit is of course, a Spirit. So in my mind, they cannot be 3 separate and distinct persons. But I will let my Creator do all the judging. I know some fine Christians who are of the trinitarian mindset.

I was baptized in the name of Jesus because this is what I felt God was leading me to after several years of seeking. I never felt so clean in my life when I came up out of the baptismal water. I am convinced within myself this is right for me.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

I Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

I think that you are on the right track asking God to teach you in your Bible studies. Ask God to teach you about the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Once you receive the Holy Ghost as outlined in Acts 2:1-38, the Holy Spirit can enhance your understanding of your biblical studies.

In Acts 10,
1 There was a certain man in Cęsarea called Cornelius, a centurion of the band called the Italian band,
2 A devout man, and one that feared God with all his house, which gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God alway.
3 He saw in a vision evidently about the ninth hour of the day an angel of God coming in to him, and saying unto him, Cornelius.
4 And when he looked on him, he was afraid, and said, What is it, Lord? And he said unto him, Thy prayers and thine alms are come up for a memorial before God.
5 And now send men to Joppa, and call for one Simon, whose surname is Peter:
6 He lodgeth with one Simon a tanner, whose house is by the sea side: he shall tell thee what thou oughtest to do.

Please read the rest of chapter 10 because it is important to understand that the Holy Ghost was also poured out upon the gentiles in this chapter.

Now turn to Acts 19

1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
7 And all the men were about twelve.

There is truly power of the Holy Ghost within you when you seek to have the name of Jesus called over you during baptism of the water and of the Spirit and receive.

Please stay sincere and ask God for more. Learning about Him never stops in this lifetime ...or even in the next.
__________________
It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man. (Psalms 118:8)
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-09-2012, 12:42 AM
KeptByTheWord's Avatar
KeptByTheWord KeptByTheWord is offline
On the road less traveled


 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: On a mountain... somewhere
Posts: 8,369
Re: What exactly is the Apostolic Belief System?

Quote:
Originally Posted by AreYouReady? View Post
Sheila, many denominations call themselves 'Apostolic'. The Catholic Church believes itself to be 'Apostolic'.

Personally, I think people just love to label themselves and others. I really dislike labels.

Apostolics believe in receiving the Holy Ghost with the initial experience of speaking in tongues. Some, that are called "trinitarians" believe that there are 3 separate and distinct persons in the Godhead. People who call themselves 'Oneness' believe that the whole of God is wrapped in a robe of flesh, in the man Jesus. I am of the belief that God came to earth and manifested Himself in the man Jesus. The bible says God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
(John 4:24)

The Holy Spirit is of course, a Spirit. So in my mind, they cannot be 3 separate and distinct persons. But I will let my Creator do all the judging. I know some fine Christians who are of the trinitarian mindset.

I was baptized in the name of Jesus because this is what I felt God was leading me to after several years of seeking. I never felt so clean in my life when I came up out of the baptismal water. I am convinced within myself this is right for me.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

I Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

I think that you are on the right track asking God to teach you in your Bible studies. Ask God to teach you about the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Once you receive the Holy Ghost as outlined in Acts 2:1-38, the Holy Spirit can enhance your understanding of your biblical studies.

In Acts 10,
1 There was a certain man in Cęsarea called Cornelius, a centurion of the band called the Italian band,
2 A devout man, and one that feared God with all his house, which gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God alway.
3 He saw in a vision evidently about the ninth hour of the day an angel of God coming in to him, and saying unto him, Cornelius.
4 And when he looked on him, he was afraid, and said, What is it, Lord? And he said unto him, Thy prayers and thine alms are come up for a memorial before God.
5 And now send men to Joppa, and call for one Simon, whose surname is Peter:
6 He lodgeth with one Simon a tanner, whose house is by the sea side: he shall tell thee what thou oughtest to do.

Please read the rest of chapter 10 because it is important to understand that the Holy Ghost was also poured out upon the gentiles in this chapter.

Now turn to Acts 19

1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
7 And all the men were about twelve.

There is truly power of the Holy Ghost within you when you seek to have the name of Jesus called over you during baptism of the water and of the Spirit and receive.

Please stay sincere and ask God for more. Learning about Him never stops in this lifetime ...or even in the next.
Wonderful words AYR!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-09-2012, 12:00 AM
Sam's Avatar
Sam Sam is offline
Jesus' Name Pentecostal


 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: near Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 17,805
Re: What exactly is the Apostolic Belief System?

There is no single "Apostolic" group nor doctrine.

For centuries various religious groups/organizations/denominations have used the word "Apostolic" to describe themselves so it covers a great diversity of opinions/doctrines/practices/etc.
__________________
Sam also known as Jim Ellis

Apostolic in doctrine
Pentecostal in experience
Charismatic in practice
Non-denominational in affiliation
Inter-denominational in fellowship
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-09-2012, 12:02 AM
Sam's Avatar
Sam Sam is offline
Jesus' Name Pentecostal


 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: near Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 17,805
Re: What exactly is the Apostolic Belief System?

I call myself "Apostolic in doctrine" To me this means that I believe in what the Apostles believed, preached, and practiced as recorded in what we now call The New Testament.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-09-2012, 09:27 AM
Timmy's Avatar
Timmy Timmy is offline
Don't ask.


 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 24,212
Re: What exactly is the Apostolic Belief System?

AYR is an Antilabeler.
__________________
Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty

More New Stuff in Timmy Talk!
My Countdown Counting down to: Rapture. Again.
Why am I not surprised?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-09-2012, 09:47 AM
AreYouReady? AreYouReady? is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 5,600
Re: What exactly is the Apostolic Belief System?

Antilabeler eh?

Heh.

People seem to must label somebody else. Religious affiliation cannot just be labled as a believer who loves Christ. No.....it must have a denomination added onto the description of what you believe. Right Timmy?

People are not satisfied in knowing if you vote. They want to know how you vote so they can label you either Republican or democrat.

Scientist don't just look at you and call you man or woman. They start classifying you as homo sapien from some corner of the world and keep on analyzing until they get your DNA right down to the exact match.

I merely defined Apostolic as I live and believe it for other people's clarification. If I were to say...I am merely a believer in Jesus Christ, then the mob will come and start pouring oil over my head and slap my forehead while shaking my brains out screaming in my ear to call upon the Holy Ghost. Some of them do this first and ask questions later.

Like I said, many different denominations call themselves Apostolic. If the RCC is Apostolic, like they call themselves...then I had been apostolic all my life.

If Sheila is sincere, God will reveal Himself to her in every way as He knows when she will accept all the spiritual fruits He has for her.

I think she does very well in studying the Bible.
__________________
It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man. (Psalms 118:8)
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-09-2012, 12:05 PM
Sheila's Avatar
Sheila Sheila is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 206
Re: What exactly is the Apostolic Belief System?

I have a label---I call it Christian
Yeshua Bless You

For His eyes are the color of the Earth He created, they are blue, green, and brown. May the Earth Bless my God. Amen
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Your creation belief shag Fellowship Hall 51 05-03-2012 08:18 PM
Trinitarian belief? jimmyrrs Fellowship Hall 52 01-11-2009 08:06 PM
What Happened to AFF's Belief System? Nahum Fellowship Hall 103 12-15-2007 08:08 PM
Landmarks-We aren't alone in this belief system Pastor Keith Fellowship Hall 1 10-09-2007 04:03 AM

 
User Infomation
Your Avatar

Latest Threads
- by jfrog
- by Salome
- by Amanah

Help Support AFF!

Advertisement




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:44 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.